DualogicFan
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Hello friends.
I am having issues with my 2013 1.2 51kw Fiat 500 Dualogic - the car does not have reverse gear anymore after I changed the gearbox.
I took gearbox from a 2004 Panda with also 1.2 liter engine (188 code and 44kw engine though and a manual from the factory). I thought it would not make a difference, Panda and 500 share a platform and they should both use the C514 gearbox.
Answers for preemptive questions:
1. Before the change all gears were available and Dualogic robot seemed to be working well.
2. The donor gearbox was also working well, it came from a driving car.
3. I used software for calibration (MultiEcuScan and AlfaOBD both).
4. Only the reverse is missing, I could get all the other gears while driving and during the final calibration procedure.
5. No error codes.
I also find something similar but the OP there seemed to have this issue in reverse (he had a manual car and took gearbox from Dualogic/Selespeed car):
I did not understand what differences he claimed to see between them but as I understood there were some.
So before digging too much deeper, I would like to know are gearboxes themselves really different between Dualogics and regular manuals? Or maybe there are differences between older (attached to 188 engine) and newer (attached to 169 engine) C514 boxes?
I am having issues with my 2013 1.2 51kw Fiat 500 Dualogic - the car does not have reverse gear anymore after I changed the gearbox.
I took gearbox from a 2004 Panda with also 1.2 liter engine (188 code and 44kw engine though and a manual from the factory). I thought it would not make a difference, Panda and 500 share a platform and they should both use the C514 gearbox.
Answers for preemptive questions:
1. Before the change all gears were available and Dualogic robot seemed to be working well.
2. The donor gearbox was also working well, it came from a driving car.
3. I used software for calibration (MultiEcuScan and AlfaOBD both).
4. Only the reverse is missing, I could get all the other gears while driving and during the final calibration procedure.
5. No error codes.
I also find something similar but the OP there seemed to have this issue in reverse (he had a manual car and took gearbox from Dualogic/Selespeed car):
Automatic to manual gearbox conversion | FIAT Grande Punto
Hi all I've got a Grande punto with a broken gearbox but have a spare EX automatic selespeed box I was going to use as a donor, by swapping out the robotics and replace with the manual selector box on top of the housing. I thought it was a simple swap over but it may seem to not be... My issue...
www.fiatforum.com
I did not understand what differences he claimed to see between them but as I understood there were some.
So before digging too much deeper, I would like to know are gearboxes themselves really different between Dualogics and regular manuals? Or maybe there are differences between older (attached to 188 engine) and newer (attached to 169 engine) C514 boxes?