Technical Daiichi radio/nav
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Technical Daiichi radio/nav
Hello,
Looks like it is connected to the ignition +, not the battery +.
Can you switch the radio on when the ignition is switched off?
Looks like it is connected to the ignition +, not the battery +.
Can you switch the radio on when the ignition is switched off?
No. The radio only comes on with the ignition but stays on for 20 minutes once it is turned off.
I can't remember how it was originally connected in my 2011 x250 Ducato as I replaced it with an aftermarket android unit some time ago.
But if your radio stays on for 20 minutes after the ignition has been turned off, I'd say it has a permanent +12 V, which is managed by the CAN system (which cuts off the power to prevent battery discharge).
With my new aftermarket radio I had to switch two cables (red and yellow, but that was my case!) for the radio to keep the settings. I used a special ISO adapter with additionnal connectors on those two wires that can be easily switched. Now it can be switched on even when the ignition is off. However I have no idea how long it would remain on... But my van is a commercial van in fact.
Check this thread:
www.fiatforum.com
It explains the timeout but doesn't say anything about loosing the settings. I think that someone with a newer model could help. Or try contacting the dealer, perhaps they could confirm what to do.
Have you got an owners' manual for the Daiichi system?
But if your radio stays on for 20 minutes after the ignition has been turned off, I'd say it has a permanent +12 V, which is managed by the CAN system (which cuts off the power to prevent battery discharge).
With my new aftermarket radio I had to switch two cables (red and yellow, but that was my case!) for the radio to keep the settings. I used a special ISO adapter with additionnal connectors on those two wires that can be easily switched. Now it can be switched on even when the ignition is off. However I have no idea how long it would remain on... But my van is a commercial van in fact.
Check this thread:
Fiat Ducato Radio Timeout | FIAT Motorhomes / Campervans
Earlier this year we bought a Swift motorhome and quickly ran into the Fiat Ducato 20 minute radio timeout problem. Neither Swift nor Fiat showed any interest in fixing this, but Fiat/Stellantis said that we could replace the radio at our own expense if we weren't happy. Their complete...
www.fiatforum.com
It explains the timeout but doesn't say anything about loosing the settings. I think that someone with a newer model could help. Or try contacting the dealer, perhaps they could confirm what to do.
Have you got an owners' manual for the Daiichi system?
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Hi. Thanks for the replies. Yes I have the Daiichi manual but is not a lot of help. I pulled the unit out to check the wiring and there is a yellow lead, but no red one. I will try to identify the ignition live with a multimeter and then try swapping them over.I can't remember how it was originally connected in my 2011 x250 Ducato as I replaced it with an aftermarket android unit some time ago.
But if your radio stays on for 20 minutes after the ignition has been turned off, I'd say it has a permanent +12 V, which is managed by the CAN system (which cuts off the power to prevent battery discharge).
With my new aftermarket radio I had to switch two cables (red and yellow, but that was my case!) for the radio to keep the settings. I used a special ISO adapter with additionnal connectors on those two wires that can be easily switched. Now it can be switched on even when the ignition is off. However I have no idea how long it would remain on... But my van is a commercial van in fact.
Check this thread:
Fiat Ducato Radio Timeout | FIAT Motorhomes / Campervans
Earlier this year we bought a Swift motorhome and quickly ran into the Fiat Ducato 20 minute radio timeout problem. Neither Swift nor Fiat showed any interest in fixing this, but Fiat/Stellantis said that we could replace the radio at our own expense if we weren't happy. Their complete...
It explains the timeout but doesn't say anything about loosing the settings. I think that someone with a newer model could help. Or try contacting the dealer, perhaps they could confirm what to do.
Have you got an owners' manual for the Daiichi system?
I'd wait for someone with newer model to confirm. Things could have changed in the last 10 years! Especially you have a permanent live, but managed probably by the BCM. Isn't there a setting to modify in MES?
Is this the touch screen satnav thing fiat started fitting after they finally killed off blue and me? If it is an OEM radio as fitted by fiat it really should turn on and off with signals from the canbus system. In the conversion process it’s perfectly possible with all the re wiring that goes on someone has disturbed something.
If the car is still in fiat warranty I would get it back to them ASAP as I recall seeing other posts on the forum for these daiichi radios when they started fitting them to the Puntos, just before they killed off the punto. Someone cleaned the screen and that was enough to kill the unit, so they are not good quality at all.
If it’s passed the warranty period you could spend a couple of hundred pounds messing about and fault finding the issue, alternatively you could invest in a much better quality more modern (the daiichi units are not very modern) and more reliable unit from a reputable brand for the same sort of money
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Last time I looked I don't think there is, but the switch off time has been controlled by the BCM for several years, depending on the system fitted. It was set to 20 minutes on my 2016 X290.
But you can change it with AlfaOBD. The options are 0 (turns off with ignition) 20, 60 or 180 minutes. There's also a reference to altering it with Fiat's own diagnostic software in one of the motorhome conversion manuals, can't remember if it's the UK one or the RAM Promaster one.
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