Technical CV joint rubber boots

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Technical CV joint rubber boots

cjmackie007

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Hi Guys,
2003 x244 2.8 JTD Hymer Motorhome 98k miles

I've recently noticed one of the rubber CV joint boots has a small split. I've put a temporary patch on it for now but clearly it'll need attention.
Whats the recommended approach ? Replace the damaged boot or the complete drive shaft assemblies. Are the replacement split boots that get glued together any good, anyone have experience of them ?
The CV joints are showing no signs of wear but clearly at the age they are there will be some wear and presumably the other boots will show signs of age soon ?
Advice appreciated
 
Hi Guys,
2003 x244 2.8 JTD Hymer Motorhome 98k miles

I've recently noticed one of the rubber CV joint boots has a small split. I've put a temporary patch on it for now but clearly it'll need attention.
Whats the recommended approach ? Replace the damaged boot or the complete drive shaft assemblies. Are the replacement split boots that get glued together any good, anyone have experience of them ?
The CV joints are showing no signs of wear but clearly at the age they are there will be some wear and presumably the other boots will show signs of age soon ?
Advice appreciated
I have never replaced a driveshaft simply for a CV boot! Not being a Main Dealer I wouldn't have had any repeat customers if that was my approach.;)
A couple of points, some Ducato use plastic boots from the factory with steel bands which are more of a pain if replacing like for like as even with the proper tool for the bands the plastic is hard to secure firmly.
I would never use the "glue on" type as glue and CV joint grease do not mix.
The correct way is to remove wheel/hub nut/bottom ball joint, lower the suspension arm and work on the shaft, you may find a proper tool from internet is useful to pull the CV joint from the shaft. You can then fit a new good quality replacement CV boot kit .
Note it is important to generously repack the CV joint it's self with the correct grease (which sticks to everything so you may want gloves.;))
If you cannot or do not want to remove the CV joint from the shaft (it can be hard) it is possible to buy aftermarket stretchable universal CV boot kits, they usually come with a plastic trumpet and once well oiled and correct size chosen they can be slid over the CV joint and on to the shaft, then you regrease the CV joint as earlier and use the clips supplied to secure the boot and reassemble the suspension.
Note they will do the job, but will not last as long as the genuine product as softer rubber.
When working on the job remember to use good quality jacks and axle stands as vehicle very heavy and you are a long time dead if they slip.:(:(:(
Care has to be taken not to let the shaft slide out of the gearbox as around two litres of oil will follow it on to the floor, also if shaft does come out care must be taken not to damage the oil seal in gearbox when refitting.
As a cheat and if very secure on stands a vehicle can be supported at an angle so gear oil level is lower than the shaft, but great care must be taken !!!
Remember another small point, these are commercial vehicles so a good set of strong tools are required.
Don't ignore the split in CV boot as generally the most common reason to replace a worn CV joint is when a boot has been left split, grease comes out and water goes in destroying it, this will very quickly cost you a lot more than a CV boot!
 
You don't say if inner or outer boot.
I agree with Mike @bugsymike
No glue on boots.
Skf produce a very good stretch boot (I also have the skf pneumatic boot expander which makes the whole job less hard work) and the correct pliers to tighten the ear on the metal clamp bands-quite physical😂
Skf also produce the correct fit thermoplastic boot kit.
Use eper on forum with your vin to find the fiat part number then Google cross reference and choose who you want to buy from.
 
You don't say if inner or outer boot.
I agree with Mike @bugsymike
No glue on boots.
Skf produce a very good stretch boot (I also have the skf pneumatic boot expander which makes the whole job less hard work) and the correct pliers to tighten the ear on the metal clamp bands-quite physical😂
Skf also produce the correct fit thermoplastic boot kit.
Use eper on forum with your vin to find the fiat part number then Google cross reference and choose who you want to buy from.
Many years ago I went to a Water board garage auction and bought a lot with a genuine Citroen/Renault tools for the Masters etc. In it was a long trumpet made of stainless steel rods with an end that fitted over the CV joint, it has got me out of trouble lots of times over the years, I also have the plastic trumpets in two sizes that came as a kit ith a bulk purchase of stretchable boots. I never got around to buying the pneumatic tool.
My other concern when offering advice is the level of ability and tools of the OPs often forgetting it is not everyones trade.:)
 
Thanks for the advice guys, it's the inner NS boot thats failing.
Regarding replacing the drive shaft, my thinking was they don't appear to be that expensive (unless I just looked at cheapo chinese made from marzipan ones ?) and it might have been quicker, easier and more beneficial just to replace complete units.
I lile to do work if I can, but this is probably a job too far for me with limited diy tools, so I'll speak to my garage and see what they say, but thanks again much appreciated.
BTW, would you recommend replacing all four boots at the same time ?
 
Thanks for the advice guys, it's the inner NS boot thats failing.
Regarding replacing the drive shaft, my thinking was they don't appear to be that expensive (unless I just looked at cheapo chinese made from marzipan ones ?) and it might have been quicker, easier and more beneficial just to replace complete units.
I lile to do work if I can, but this is probably a job too far for me with limited diy tools, so I'll speak to my garage and see what they say, but thanks again much appreciated.
BTW, would you recommend replacing all four boots at the same time ?
My understanding is that there is several different options on the drive shafts, so a local good supplier who will accept returns , maybe a safest option. Others on Forum will be able to suggest some.
Re the need to change all four boots, as you are taking it to your local garage, assuming you use them regularly I would take their advice on all aspects of this job including the source of parts.
Speaking from personal experience, when a customer suppliers the parts they tended to be incorrect and as they were not from my normal trade parts supplier who would send out the correct parts on the next van, then down time with a blocked garage ramp etc. could be very non profitable so was discouraged.:(
If a person is doing it at home then a vehicle off the road in your drive waiting for parts is less damaging to the wallet.;)
 
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