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I'll have a look for a private garage that only does MOT, there must be some i don't know about. My old GP is due in January, its in good nick overall, I mean the exhaust is currently hanging off while I wait for a new one to arrive, but a cardboard exhaust is kinda normal for these cars :)
It saddens me so much when I read of people who've experienced abuse from the garage trade. Makes me ashamed to be part of the trade which I earned my living in and tried, always, to give customers value for money and a good experience. There are known "bad eggs" around me but there are also some very good establishments. The problem is how you identify the good ones? It's very difficult if you're inexperienced and have no links to people in the trade. Personally I'd avoid anywhere offering cut price MOTs. They will be doing this to attract new business, possibly because they are not making enough (If I'm being cynical, maybe because their past customers are not returning?) The present suggested price for properly conducted MOT with the expensive equipment the garage has to buy, is probably about right to make it a decent business proposition. If you start discounting the profit quickly disappears so you need remedial work to generate profit and it becomes attractive to fail stuff which may be interpreted as "marginal" or push customers towards thinking Advisories should be done immediately on a "safety" footing. The other group of garages I've found to be trustworthy and competent is one which is specialising in a make or type of vehicle. Around me there's the wee Fiat garage, one which does Hondas, and three around the city who do VAG (Volkswagen Group, so VW, Audi, Skoda and SEAT) There's also a Vauxhall specialist who I've used twice when my boy had the Astra. All of these are quite small setups with the owners working on the shop floor along with any others they employ and you can usually "talk to the man" if you need to. These types of workshop are relatively easy to identify and it's even better if you find someone, maybe at work or in the pub? who has had work done by them. When you try to widen your search base from that it becomes more difficult. Personally I pay almost no attention to internet reviews and I feel too nervous of internet booking with a provider I have no experience of. If someone asks me about a local place they are considering using and it's not one I know of - there are a lot of we "back street" workshops in most cities - I'll usually just say I don't know that one. I've learned that you can quickly become an unpopular person if you give poor advice. However if I find myself having to help, maybe because it's a friend of a relative or other significant person, then I'm lucky enough to be able to ask around the other motor trade people I know and, failing that, I would walk into the establishment asking about a repair, what it might cost and how long before they could do it. This gives me a good chance to take a good look at the condition of the workshop and what hardware they have. Pricing often gives me a good idea if they know what they are doing and also lets me, perhaps, pose a "what if this happens" type question. How long before they can take the car? Often, but not always, if they can take it "tomorrow" it's an indication that people are staying away, but you do need to be careful with that one - they may just have taken pity on you and are trying to help you out if it's a job that's not too complicated. I think there's nothing like a recommendation from a customer who regularly uses the same garage.
 
It saddens me so much when I read of people who've experienced abuse from the garage trade. Makes me ashamed to be part of the trade which I earned my living in and tried, always, to give customers value for money and a good experience. There are known "bad eggs" around me but there are also some very good establishments. The problem is how you identify the good ones? It's very difficult if you're inexperienced and have no links to people in the trade. Personally I'd avoid anywhere offering cut price MOTs. They will be doing this to attract new business, possibly because they are not making enough (If I'm being cynical, maybe because their past customers are not returning?) The present suggested price for properly conducted MOT with the expensive equipment the garage has to buy, is probably about right to make it a decent business proposition. If you start discounting the profit quickly disappears so you need remedial work to generate profit and it becomes attractive to fail stuff which may be interpreted as "marginal" or push customers towards thinking Advisories should be done immediately on a "safety" footing. The other group of garages I've found to be trustworthy and competent is one which is specialising in a make or type of vehicle. Around me there's the wee Fiat garage, one which does Hondas, and three around the city who do VAG (Volkswagen Group, so VW, Audi, Skoda and SEAT) There's also a Vauxhall specialist who I've used twice when my boy had the Astra. All of these are quite small setups with the owners working on the shop floor along with any others they employ and you can usually "talk to the man" if you need to. These types of workshop are relatively easy to identify and it's even better if you find someone, maybe at work or in the pub? who has had work done by them. When you try to widen your search base from that it becomes more difficult. Personally I pay almost no attention to internet reviews and I feel too nervous of internet booking with a provider I have no experience of. If someone asks me about a local place they are considering using and it's not one I know of - there are a lot of we "back street" workshops in most cities - I'll usually just say I don't know that one. I've learned that you can quickly become an unpopular person if you give poor advice. However if I find myself having to help, maybe because it's a friend of a relative or other significant person, then I'm lucky enough to be able to ask around the other motor trade people I know and, failing that, I would walk into the establishment asking about a repair, what it might cost and how long before they could do it. This gives me a good chance to take a good look at the condition of the workshop and what hardware they have. Pricing often gives me a good idea if they know what they are doing and also lets me, perhaps, pose a "what if this happens" type question. How long before they can take the car? Often, but not always, if they can take it "tomorrow" it's an indication that people are staying away, but you do need to be careful with that one - they may just have taken pity on you and are trying to help you out if it's a job that's not too complicated. I think there's nothing like a recommendation from a customer who regularly uses the same garage.

I think covid and the cost of living problems have done the motor repair trade a lot of harm. There are just a lot fewer good garages out there and you're right, without knowing where the good garages are, it makes getting repairs difficult. I'm sure you had many good days of being a mechanic, much less pressure, less internet derived meanness and dare i say it easier cars to work on.

A couple of years ago before I began my mechanic journey i had bad work from 4 different garages, it was a never ending stream. And i had to walk into at least another 5 or 6 garages who couldn't do the work. All i learnt is that either i fix them myself or i buy a newer car. My only contact with garages for a couple of years now is for MOTs, so i was saddened when that went so wrong.

The heavy miles i'm driving at the moment will be changing next year so the cars won't always be falling to bits lol. Current jobs...windscreen change, spark plug change, new clutch, new exhaust...it'd be really nice to have a vehicle lift at home.
 
I think covid and the cost of living problems have done the motor repair trade a lot of harm. There are just a lot fewer good garages out there and you're right, without knowing where the good garages are, it makes getting repairs difficult. I'm sure you had many good days of being a mechanic, much less pressure, less internet derived meanness and dare i say it easier cars to work on.
Absolutely Anthony. My days of working on the shop floor for my daily bread, ended in the era of the Austin Montego/Maestro when I became a trainer and later went "off piste" getting involved more and more in working with disabled people - always in a work related environment though. Last 15 years ran a squad of learning disabled gardeners, How's that for a diverse career? Always involved with cars and horticultural machines and servicing/maintaining them. Been retired for 15 years now and ever so glad I'm not having to sort out the nightmare modern cars!
A couple of years ago before I began my mechanic journey i had bad work from 4 different garages, it was a never ending stream. And i had to walk into at least another 5 or 6 garages who couldn't do the work. All i learnt is that either i fix them myself or i buy a newer car. My only contact with garages for a couple of years now is for MOTs, so i was saddened when that went so wrong.
I follow your posts with interest and admire you for "having a go". It was much easier when I was just starting out when cars didn't even have a basic electronic ignition.
The heavy miles i'm driving at the moment will be changing next year so the cars won't always be falling to bits lol. Current jobs...windscreen change, spark plug change, new clutch, new exhaust...it'd be really nice to have a vehicle lift at home.
I thought very seriously about digging a pit at one time, but never did! I did weld together a wheeled "gantry" to which I fitted a block and tackle for lifting out engine/power units - On reflection I'd have been better to have saved up for a proper folding engine crane because the gantry takes up a lot of storage room and isn't as adaptable as a proper crane. Over the years I've managed everything I ever wanted to do with the ramps (which don't see much use now) a selection of 3 sets of axle stands, one of which is actually intended for small commercials/4WD drive vehicles so allows me extra lift, and a selection of trolley and other jacks. I can get a car up high enough that, if needed, I can drop a complete power unit onto a wheeled plywood dolly I made for taking the engine out of Imps, Dafs and VW beetles using the block and tackle on the gantry and then slide the power unit intact out from under the vehicle. Sometimes it's easier and safer than lifting an engine high enough to get it over the front of the bodywork.
 
Absolutely Anthony. My days of working on the shop floor for my daily bread, ended in the era of the Austin Montego/Maestro when I became a trainer and later went "off piste" getting involved more and more in working with disabled people - always in a work related environment though. Last 15 years ran a squad of learning disabled gardeners, How's that for a diverse career? Always involved with cars and horticultural machines and servicing/maintaining them. Been retired for 15 years now and ever so glad I'm not having to sort out the nightmare modern cars!

I follow your posts with interest and admire you for "having a go". It was much easier when I was just starting out when cars didn't even have a basic electronic ignition.

I thought very seriously about digging a pit at one time, but never did! I did weld together a wheeled "gantry" to which I fitted a block and tackle for lifting out engine/power units - On reflection I'd have been better to have saved up for a proper folding engine crane because the gantry takes up a lot of storage room and isn't as adaptable as a proper crane. Over the years I've managed everything I ever wanted to do with the ramps (which don't see much use now) a selection of 3 sets of axle stands, one of which is actually intended for small commercials/4WD drive vehicles so allows me extra lift, and a selection of trolley and other jacks. I can get a car up high enough that, if needed, I can drop a complete power unit onto a wheeled plywood dolly I made for taking the engine out of Imps, Dafs and VW beetles using the block and tackle on the gantry and then slide the power unit intact out from under the vehicle. Sometimes it's easier and safer than lifting an engine high enough to get it over the front of the bodywork.

Its interesting that you mention axle stands that are intended for small commercials. Do they go higher than ramps or regular axle stands? And is it safe? I seem to remember you posting a picture of your stands and they looked quite high but that was a while ago.

I'm using my ramps about once a year at the moment because I can get a tiny bit more height out of them than my axle stands. But driving up onto the ramps just isn't fun even with a helper.

I can't imagine lifting an engine out of a car. It would be worthwhile on a newer or expensive car but I don't have any of them! :)
 
Its interesting that you mention axle stands that are intended for small commercials. Do they go higher than ramps or regular axle stands? And is it safe? I seem to remember you posting a picture of your stands and they looked quite high but that was a while ago.

I'm using my ramps about once a year at the moment because I can get a tiny bit more height out of them than my axle stands. But driving up onto the ramps just isn't fun even with a helper.

I can't imagine lifting an engine out of a car. It would be worthwhile on a newer or expensive car but I don't have any of them! :)
Ok, just went into the garage and measured the stands.

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The yellow ones in the foreground are the ones I call my "Commercial" stands and measured 600mm/2ft to you and me in "real money", with a wooden "anti slip" piece on top. The black ones on the left are 545 and my oldest ones, on the right are 510 - all with their wooden blocks.

My biggest trolley jack gets 510 so with a piece of 4x4 post on top it can get 600 too.

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It all gets a bit wobbly at that though and you don't need it that far up in the air for most jobs, in fact I think I've only used them at full extension once or twice. Even at lower heights it lifts the car appreciable higher than the ramps. I mostly work with the stands as it gives you the freedom of whipping off a wheel if you need to without disturbing the car. Ramps are useful for unimpeded access to chassis etc. So, although I don't use them often, there are times when they come into their own.
 
I've just been to measure up.

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The orange jacks have a maximum height of 36cm. The black ones are 40cm. The green trolley jack has a max height of 43cm. This is all without a rubber/wooden block. I can't easily measure the height of my ramps because they're in the attic.

Mmm. So I could go a lot higher. I'd have to buy a bigger axle stand set and trolley jack. Food for thought.
 
I've just been to measure up.

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The orange jacks have a maximum height of 36cm. The black ones are 40cm. The green trolley jack has a max height of 43cm. This is all without a rubber/wooden block. I can't easily measure the height of my ramps because they're in the attic.

Mmm. So I could go a lot higher. I'd have to buy a bigger axle stand set and trolley jack. Food for thought.
I very rarely need to get it up anywhere near the max I have available and you need to be very aware it gets a bit dangerous when that high as it's easier to haul it off the stands. What do you intend doing with it that it needs to be so high?
 
I very rarely need to get it up anywhere near the max I have available and you need to be very aware it gets a bit dangerous when that high as it's easier to haul it off the stands. What do you intend doing with it that it needs to be so high?
I'm thinking of giving myself more room in general. It'd be £200 or more for a new jack and stands, i can't justify the cost without a specific job though, so i'll leave the info in my memory bank :)
 
I'm thinking of giving myself more room in general. It'd be £200 or more for a new jack and stands, i can't justify the cost without a specific job though, so i'll leave the info in my memory bank :)
By the way, just for info, the stands I use the most, by a long way, are the old red ones I bought way back in the late 1960s.
 
Ive small and big axle stands, the ratchet type in your photo. the bigger ones on the lowest setting are as tall as the smaller ones on their highest setting but obviously more stable.
I tend to work the car up in stages of the stands until i can get them onto the bigger ones. I made an extension for the jack that goes between the white cup thingy and the jack to gain extra height.
 
Ive small and big axle stands, the ratchet type in your photo. the bigger ones on the lowest setting are as tall as the smaller ones on their highest setting but obviously more stable.
I tend to work the car up in stages of the stands until i can get them onto the bigger ones. I made an extension for the jack that goes between the white cup thingy and the jack to gain extra height.
I can gain some height by using a thick rubber jack pad, but i tend to use my thinner ones.
 
I can't imagine lifting an engine out of a car. It would be worthwhile on a newer or expensive car but I don't have any of them! :)
It’s not as daunting as you might think, i’m not a qualified mechanic and i did an engine swap on my drive on a Mk4 Golf, you tend to find when you put the engine back in that all the plugs and pipes hang in near enough the right place and it all makes sense. And the satisfaction you get when you turn the key and the oil light goes out as it should is one of jubilation 🙂
 
I tend to work the car up in stages of the stands until i can get them onto the bigger ones. I made an extension for the jack that goes between the white cup thingy and the jack to gain extra height.
Very good point. Much more stable to take it up in stages. If I'm going to max height with the yellow stands I take it in 3 stages. You have to be especially careful when taking the whole car off the ground on 4 stands.
 
The new windscreen went on today, so i insured it and took it for its maiden drive!

It had a lot of condensation to chuck out the exhaust.

Its chucking an engine management light at me, possibly the battery needs repairing.

Telling me the tyres need inflating when they're only a couple of psi below recommended. A faulty sensor might explain why the fronts were very over-inflated when i bought it.

Telling me i'm speeding and doing over 30mph all the time! How do i turn that off?
 
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