Technical Clutch replacement cost
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Technical Clutch replacement cost
Sounds absolutely fine for a complete 3 piece clutch replacement - driven plate, cover assembly and release bearing. Get them to look very carefully at the input shaft oil seal/bearing on the gearbox, which is a known weakness at higher mileages, and, if there's even the slightest sign of an oil leak or wear in the bearing you must get it sorted or you'll find your nice new clutch will be ruined by oil contamination shortly after. Good opportunity to have the gearbox oil renewed too as they are likely to loose some anyway when disconnecting drive shafts.
PS. Ask them what make they are using. Valeo is what they mostly use around here and that make seems to have a good reputation - both our own Panda 1.2 and my boy's Punto 1.4 had Valeo clutches fitted within the last couple of years and they've been a great success.
That's great to hear. Many thanks for the detailed response, it is much appreciated.
I will ask them to check the oil seal at the same time. Is it an easy repair or quite labour intensive?
The oil seal and bearing are simple when the gearbox is off... they're basically a push fit into the housing.
Unless the garage has a load of spare seals and bearings lying around, it might be worth buying the parts, so that they're on hand if the garage needs/wants to fit them. If they don't have the parts, they won't necessarily pause while they arrive - it's easier for them to just re-assemble it and tell you it was fine.
Agreed with Jock re. the Valeo clutch. You need a branded item made by someone you've heard of, and in my opinion Valeo is the best brand you can buy.
Ralf S.
Unless the garage has a load of spare seals and bearings lying around, it might be worth buying the parts, so that they're on hand if the garage needs/wants to fit them. If they don't have the parts, they won't necessarily pause while they arrive - it's easier for them to just re-assemble it and tell you it was fine.
Agreed with Jock re. the Valeo clutch. You need a branded item made by someone you've heard of, and in my opinion Valeo is the best brand you can buy.
Ralf S.
Hmm. Not that "easy". Here's a video of how it's recommended to do it. the drawing of the bearing is shown at around 3.5 minutes in.
The problem is that the input (first motion) shaft withdraws to the inside of the gearbox. Some gearbox designs have a removable retaining housing which can be unbolted inside the bell housing so the seal can be winkled out reasonable easily. Not ours though I'm afraid.
However there is an excellent guide somewhere in the forum which shows how it can be done without completely dismantling the gearbox and, if I was quite sure it was only the first motion shaft bearing and seal at fault, that's how I would choose to do it. I've been trying to find it but without any luck. I don't think it was actually stored as a "guide" it was more of a detailed post. Maybe someone can remember where to find it?
The problem is that the input (first motion) shaft withdraws to the inside of the gearbox. Some gearbox designs have a removable retaining housing which can be unbolted inside the bell housing so the seal can be winkled out reasonable easily. Not ours though I'm afraid.
However there is an excellent guide somewhere in the forum which shows how it can be done without completely dismantling the gearbox and, if I was quite sure it was only the first motion shaft bearing and seal at fault, that's how I would choose to do it. I've been trying to find it but without any luck. I don't think it was actually stored as a "guide" it was more of a detailed post. Maybe someone can remember where to find it?
That's a shame.. I was imagining it similar to the Stilo gearbox, which I'm more familiar with.
Could be a job to only do when it needs doing, by the sound of it..?
Ralf S.
Could be a job to only do when it needs doing, by the sound of it..?
Ralf S.
Cheers mate. I have seen the video you are referring to where they remove the bell housing and access the bearing from the front of the box. I image getting the bearing off could cause problems though.
I reckon the input shaft bearing is worn though as there is noise when the clutch is out and goes away when I depress the clutch. The garage I use don't get involved with opening gearboxes up and the car is booked in for tomorrow as the clutch is knackered and I need the car for work.
I am going to ring around and see if I can find someone else to do it as I don't want to be paying for the box to come out again and don't fancy doing it on my driveway.
Input shaft bearing renewal | FIAT Punto (Mk2/2b)
Hello Half-way into renewing the clutch on my punto. Have transmission off, slight bit of play on the input shaft, able to rattle it side-to-side, when gearbox in neutral and rotating shaft by hand moves freely but it sounds a bit gritty. When driving was getting a rumbling noise, checked oil...
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Here is the thread with the video for the removal of the bell housing.
That's the one. Thanks very much for flagging it up here - I've now noted the URL for future reference.Input shaft bearing renewal | FIAT Punto (Mk2/2b)
Hello Half-way into renewing the clutch on my punto. Have transmission off, slight bit of play on the input shaft, able to rattle it side-to-side, when gearbox in neutral and rotating shaft by hand moves freely but it sounds a bit gritty. When driving was getting a rumbling noise, checked oil...
Here is the thread with the video for the removal of the bell housing.
I don't think many smaller garages would get involved in gearbox internals these days as opening up a gearbox tends to be a bit of a "can of worms". What I mean by that is most gearboxes are good for considerable mileages - unless grossly abused. Then, eventually, something fails, in our case most often the input shaft bearing. However there is likely to be considerable wear of other parts too so, when you open the box up and start looking at components in detail, it's very usual to find other problems. Or, if you just decide to do the one obvious thing which is failing, pretty soon you find another part requiring attention. So most will hand the job off to their local gearbox specialist who will be able to do a box like this quickly, much more quickly than a non specialist, and will know of other typical problems to look out for as well as being able to properly clean out the inside of the box - important where something like a bearing has failed.
