Citroen BX TZD Turbo

[bugsymike]

You have encouraged me to have a quick dig out of old pics,clockwise from top left, me fifty years ago note the clogs and bell bottoms ouch!, sat on £20 Vauxhall Victor 101 with £70 Moskvich 427 estate behind, next pic I think was around £17 Singer Gazelle that I taught first wife to drive in, next pic 1947 Karrier Bantam Series 2 allegedly a £500 present for second wife, pic below is Peugeot 505 Family 8 seater estate with on right it's predecessor 504 Family Estate that I converted from petrol auto to diesel manual using doner 504 pick up (the white stuff on the floor is about the most snow in our area over the last 35 odd years living here,below is our GSD dog in back laid on camping gear on way to Great Dorset Steam Fair with seven of us, possibly on right of that pic is the yellow Citroen Visa 652cc air cooled I mentioned before, the red corner below may be a Ford P100 pick up, finally clockwise again is the boat I fitted the 1997 Fiat Ducato 2.8 turbo intercooled 122hp engine to and by increasing boost and adjusting the Bosch injector pump was able to get 26 Knots top speed @ 4 gallons to the hour of diesel compared with the original 3.75 litre V6 Volvo Penta 150H's 30 Knots @ 10 gallons to the hour on five star petrol. Apart from the boat the most expensive item was the £500 Fiat Ducato Maxi van which after using the engine the rest of it went to Poland I think for £370 odd. The boat I used for around four years totally reliable all year round and never needed heater plugs even when ice around gunnels when using in mid Winter.Forgot to mention the German Shepard Dog was great with all our children, could crush a golf ball to rubber bands in seconds yet hold a raw egg without breaking the shell, I once ran down the stairs and put all my weight on her nose where she was resting by accident and she just looked at me, lovely family dog.

 

[The Panda Nut]

You have encouraged me to have a quick dig out of old pics,clockwise from top left, me fifty years ago note the clogs and bell bottoms ouch!, sat on £20 Vauxhall Victor 101 with £70 Moskvich 427 estate behind, next pic I think was around £17 Singer Gazelle that I taught first wife to drive in, next pic 1947 Karrier Bantam Series 2 allegedly a £500 present for second wife, pic below is Peugeot 505 Family 8 seater estate with on right it's predecessor 504 Family Estate that I converted from petrol auto to diesel manual using doner 504 pick up (the white stuff on the floor is about the most snow in our area over the last 35 odd years living here,below is our GSD dog in back laid on camping gear on way to Great Dorset Steam Fair with seven of us, possibly on right of that pic is the yellow Citroen Visa 652cc air cooled I mentioned before, the red corner below may be a Ford P100 pick up, finally clockwise again is the boat I fitted the 1997 Fiat Ducato 2.8 turbo intercooled 122hp engine to and by increasing boost and adjusting the Bosch injector pump was able to get 26 Knots top speed @ 4 gallons to the hour of diesel compared with the original 3.75 litre V6 Volvo Penta 150H's 30 Knots @ 10 gallons to the hour on five star petrol. Apart from the boat the most expensive item was the £500 Fiat Ducato Maxi van which after using the engine the rest of it went to Poland I think for £370 odd. The boat I used for around four years totally reliable all year round and never needed heater plugs even when ice around gunnels when using in mid Winter.Forgot to mention the German Shepard Dog was great with all our children, could crush a golf ball to rubber bands in seconds yet hold a raw egg without breaking the shell, I once ran down the stairs and put all my weight on her nose where she was resting by accident and she just looked at me, lovely family dog.

When they say a mans best friend is his dog they still under rate a good dog. Love the pics. Im working through what pics I can find. Quite a few have been lost over the years. Dad used to drive victors up to the one before the 101. Salesman said he needed a VX90. Dad said if you can beat me in my DL in a race I'll buy it. BAD MOVE, the man tried and failed. Dad bought a DS19. More badge than bite there it seems.

 

[bugsymike]

When they say a mans best friend is his dog they still under rate a good dog. Love the pics. Im working through what pics I can find. Quite a few have been lost over the years. Dad used to drive victors up to the one before the 101. Salesman said he needed a VX90. Dad said if you can beat me in my DL in a race I'll buy it. BAD MOVE, the man tried and failed. Dad bought a DS19. More badge than bite there it seems.

Around the same time I also owned a 1959 Vauxhall Victor FA with around 50k miles, from memory I paid £27 for, all black and chrome and a lovely car, sold it to my sister and her boyfriend saying it's quite old but driven gently it should last for years, the next time they came back from college they were full of praise for it , saying they got 90mph on the Motorway, it was the era of platform shoes and her boyfriends clutch operation was either on or off, so shortly after they did the back axle in. It turned out later they left it outside their lodgings for months and then a neighbour bought it from them as it was, for more than I had sold it to them for.
The Victor 101 was the FC version. I recall a few years earlier another mechanic was revving his dads VX4/90 Victor 101 (twin Solex carbs?)with his head under the bonnet doing some repairs, as he stood back the metal fan blades sheared narrowly missing him but taking out the radiator and damaging the bonnet!
I was less keen on your dads version, the FB after working around the engine mounting to do the fuel pump due to access.
Earlier I had a Vauxhall HA SL90 the disc brake version, another sub £20 car that I resprayed with around 13 aerosols at 50pence each, I later sold it to a friend, a month or so after when I arrived at work one day the manager of the holiday camp over the road came up to me saying "you had a bad crash last night" I didn't know what he was going on about, apparently he used to listen to the Police radio and go out and rubberneck crashes (sad git!) it turned out it was my mate, earlier he had called round my house seeing if I was going out and I had said no, which was very unusual as we often did, so someone up there was looking after me. A taxi had broken down with no lights on a fast stretch, my mate had caught it and rolled the Viva, the passenger side roof was flat to the bonnet where I would have been and another mate who was sitting there nearly died, not helped by catching pneumonia due to complications.
In the early 70s that stretch of 70mph limit road was guaranteed to have a bad crash nearly every week, one time I returned from day release at college to find a Morris 1300 had left the road and landed on the low roof of a house opposite the garage.
I can't say much, I wrote off my second car an 1955 MG Magnette ZA (£40) right outside the garage exactly a week after buying it, complete inexperience on my behalf just not used to a big heavy old car on crossply tyres etc.

 

[rmjbn1]

Flippin' 'eck @The Panda Nut I didn't know you had one of these! So did I, a magnificent 1.9 TZD in the same shade of green You're like my evil twin.

Extra special early 90's 'Hurricane' graphics and a body kit that made you think it was a GTi. Until you heard it.

Would spin its front wheels at any opportunity and finally let me down (literally) when the hydraulic pipes went extra-absorbent.

Steering went heavy on the way home for work, so decided to try to get to the nearest Citroen garage for some extra LHM...
...then started sinking to the ground...
...made it to the garage, tried to stop and turn in but sailed straight past as there wasn't enough green juice left to work the brakes

Strangely I didn't take many pictures of it, but here it is (just) at rest at the magnificent Chateau Citroen (as our family home was known in t'village).

 

[The Panda Nut]

Flippin' 'eck @The Panda Nut I didn't know you had one of these! So did I, a magnificent 1.9 TZD in the same shade of green You're like my evil twin.

Extra special early 90's 'Hurricane' graphics and a body kit that made you think it was a GTi. Until you heard it.

Would spin its front wheels at any opportunity and finally let me down (literally) when the hydraulic pipes went extra-absorbent.

Steering went heavy on the way home for work, so decided to try to get to the nearest Citroen garage for some extra LHM...
...then started sinking to the ground...
...made it to the garage, tried to stop and turn in but sailed straight past as there wasn't enough green juice left to work the brakes

Strangely I didn't take many pictures of it, but here it is (just) at rest at the magnificent Chateau Citroen (as our family home was known in t'village).
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My Citroen phase started in 1985 and lasted 9 years. My dad had an early DS19 and then a 2CV. I started with a GSA, GSA Estate, and another GSA, followed by a Mitsubishi Galant and then Visa 17D, BX17 RD, BX19RD, CXD 2.5D, BX17RD Turbo, BX 17TZD Turbo, BX17TZD Turbo estate. The Firat Turbo BX was a beast It would see 140mph on the clock at the drop of a hat, and spin its wheels in 4th gear unless driven witch care. Went like the wind. Then Citroen did the dirty on me in a big way so no more Stellantis products for me, ever. I then moved on to Renaults and wasted a fortune on them but the Laguna 2.2dT RXE was a fabulouse cruiser, then a brief flurry with VAG, and on to Fiat. The rest is history.

The BX did have a lovely big sun roof. If you bought the accessory wind deflector you could actually open it while on the move. Otherwise as James may would say 'Buffeting'

Pandas on the top!

 

[bugsymike]

My Citroen phase started in 1985 and lasted 9 years. My dad had an early DS19 and then a 2CV. I started with a GSA, GSA Estate, and another GSA, followed by a Mitsubishi Galant and then Visa 17D, BX17 RD, BX19RD, CXD 2.5D, BX17RD Turbo, BX 17TZD Turbo, BX17TZD Turbo estate. The Firat Turbo BX was a beast It would see 140mph on the clock at the drop of a hat, and spin its wheels in 4th gear unless driven witch care. Went like the wind. Then Citroen did the dirty on me in a big way so no more Stellantis products for me, ever. I then moved on to Renaults and wasted a fortune on them but the Laguna 2.2dT RXE was a fabulouse cruiser, then a brief flurry with VAG, and on to Fiat. The rest is history.

The BX did have a lovely big sun roof. If you bought the accessory wind deflector you could actually open it while on the move. Otherwise as James may would say 'Buffeting'

Pandas on the top!

I had Citroen Ami, Visa air cooled 650cc and Dyanne 435cc LHD all for less than £50 each and my sister had a CX 2400 Pallas .
At one time I had several customers with 2CVs after fixing one, the word got out that I didn't run and put the closed sign up unlike some other garages.

 

[The Panda Nut]

Flippin' 'eck @The Panda Nut I didn't know you had one of these! So did I, a magnificent 1.9 TZD in the same shade of green You're like my evil twin.

Extra special early 90's 'Hurricane' graphics and a body kit that made you think it was a GTi. Until you heard it.

Would spin its front wheels at any opportunity and finally let me down (literally) when the hydraulic pipes went extra-absorbent.

Steering went heavy on the way home for work, so decided to try to get to the nearest Citroen garage for some extra LHM...
...then started sinking to the ground...
...made it to the garage, tried to stop and turn in but sailed straight past as there wasn't enough green juice left to work the brakes

Strangely I didn't take many pictures of it, but here it is (just) at rest at the magnificent Chateau Citroen (as our family home was known in t'village).
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Funny, you aint the only person to say I'm evil. Mrs PN certainly thinks so.

 

[rmjbn1]

We're onto you TPN

We had mostly 2CVs and Dyanes growing up, maybe 19 or 20 of them.

They were almost disposable in the late 80's so were picked up for next to nothing and run until they inevitably collapsed from rust and on to the next one.

I loved most of them, apart from once I dropped my fish and chips and they went clean through the floor. Never forgave that one.

 

[rmjbn1]

No experience with your model , but I did totally strip and rebuild the roof on a Citroen Pluriel to the surprise of the Dealers as they wouldn't touch them.
It involved several broken plastic parts and the worm gear cable drive for both sides plus plastic hinges etc, as all computer controlled and involved the windows going down the boot opening to drop it in and all the sliding back etc.
Take lots of photos so you know where it all belongs.
It was a long painful job and even though successful I would not touch another one

My parents are on their second Pluriel, after the first one - would you believe - developed a leaky roof.
When this one starts leaking I'll send em your way Mike

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Never owned a Citroen. I'm surprised at that.

 

[rmjbn1]

Get a BX. You'll possibly regret it.

It should be hydraulic, overly complicated and frustratingly unreliable if you want to do it properly. Rusty too. Which my BX's were, despite being half built out of plastic.

A C6 probably costs less to buy than it costs to tax it for a year now, so that could be a fun route to financial ruin.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Get a BX. You'll possibly regret it.

It should be hydraulic, overly complicated and frustratingly unreliable if you want to do it properly. Rusty too. Which my BX's were, despite being half built out of plastic.

A C6 probably costs less to buy than it costs to tax it for a year now, so that could be a fun route to financial ruin.

I chose a 405 over a BX bitd as a company car. Bit late now!

 

[rmjbn1]

It's never too late! There's always time for one more mistake

 

[bugsymike]

Get a BX. You'll possibly regret it.

It should be hydraulic, overly complicated and frustratingly unreliable if you want to do it properly. Rusty too. Which my BX's were, despite being half built out of plastic.

A C6 probably costs less to buy than it costs to tax it for a year now, so that could be a fun route to financial ruin.

Better still get a Citroen Pluriel with a leaking roof!!!

 

[rmjbn1]

I know where there is one

No. Don't get one.

I think the old Citroëns are wonderful when they work, the C3 Pluriel is the worst car I've ever driven.

It doesn't have a single redeeming feature.

Except that the useless leaky roof can be removed and dumped somewhere.

Luckily my parents live on the English Riviera where it's sunny all the time

 

[bugsymike]

I know where there is one

No. Don't get one.

I think the old Citroëns are wonderful when they work, the C3 Pluriel is the worst car I've ever driven.

It doesn't have a single redeeming feature.

Except that the useless leaky roof can be removed and dumped somewhere.

Luckily my parents live on the English Riviera where it's sunny all the time

I wondered who I sold it to.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

I wondered who I sold it to.

Pluriel Jacuzzi Edition?

 

[bugsymike]

Pluriel Jacuzzi Edition?

Joking apart it was a low mileage manual version and drove very well and I sold it for well under what it stood me in.
I did see it several years later still going strong.
But I noted the roof was up.

 

[The Panda Nut]

I had a Smart Cario. Similar roof design, but faultless and not a drop ever passed its seals.. Thats Japanese quality for you. The Mitsubishi Mercedes.