Technical Cinq brake conversion front and rear , members opinion and advice !

[PRT RaCeR]

Hi guys, i got myself a new cinq few days ago, full abarth body kit and 14" wheels, its due for MOT soon, as brakes components need replace and hand brake cable i will take the chance to upgrade, so my questions are,

Whats the best calipers model that i could get from what models??

I been reading many posts on forum including the list of compatible models, but maybe a some are better than others due to manufactor year??
I bought a set of rear adaptors from ebay and seller state that it will be compatible with Punto GT/ HGT and fiat coupe 2.0, so im a bit confused...

For last my front medium beams been temperamental and dont wanna work, Full beams and parking lights work all the time, is it bulbs or any particular spot on wiring loom that usualy get damage??

Please give your opinions and advice as i will make a nice thread and Photos and guide lines to help other members in the future!

 

[blu73]

https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecento-seicento-faqs/93835-brake-upgrades.html

 

[fostertom]

That's with 14" wheels - what possibilites if keeping 13"?

 

[fingers99]

That's with 14" wheels - what possibilites if keeping 13"?

Only Uno tub unless you go uber expensive (Wildwood, maybe).

 

[blu73]

:yeahthat:

 

[fingers99]

I'd forget the rears unless you're doing track stuff and use a lot of trail braking. Under heavy braking the rear wheels will be off the tarmac.

 

[PRT RaCeR]

Thanks for the quick replys guys! I think make very sence fingers99 , but there is a possibility of a compatible brake bias valve?? i did that in a previous car i owned and work fine but dont know about cinqs :-\ , what do you think?

 

[Pep0]

the stock brakes have a bias valve already but a simple option is to just fit comp pads to stock discs unless your auto only does track days.

the rears need good thread depth in wet... even with bias valve

 

[fostertom]

Only Uno tub unless you go uber expensive (Wildwood, maybe).

Shame eh - but Lada did have bigger discs inside 13" wheels - but no gd as a solution because not vented, and heavy iron calipers. Were there really no other cars back then with vented discs inside 13" wheels? For me, this applies to both Uno 70SX and 124 Coupe.

 

[fingers99]

Thanks for the quick replys guys! I think make very sence fingers99 , but there is a possibility of a compatible brake bias valve?? i did that in a previous car i owned and work fine but dont know about cinqs :-\ , what do you think?

It's possible -- I think rallycinq runs such a set up -- but from memory you have to re-do an aweful lot of the system, as it'll be plumbed for diagonal operation, I think. A lot of stuff on that in the Staniforth Race and Rally book.

 

[fingers99]

Shame eh - but Lada did have bigger discs inside 13" wheels - but no gd as a solution because not vented, and heavy iron calipers. Were there really no other cars back then with vented discs inside 13" wheels? For me, this applies to both Uno 70SX and 124 Coupe.

I think the problem will be that most of the performance cars of that era (Fulvia, Alfa Sud) etc. went to 14s.

A search on the Guy Croft site might turn up something for the 124/Lada. (I think you can still search it, although it's now a membership only site.)

Only a thought, but car conventional sliding calipers only seem to differ in vented/non vented versions by the length of the sliders. Equally, the only apparent differences between Marea/Alfa 155/Punto GT disks and the shopping versions are the width and the diameter. A local engineering shop should be able to make.modify either.

Just about everything short of genuine supercars will have heavy iron calipers. Even MR2s and Integrale evos have them.

 

[blu73]

to be fair, once you price up some rare unoT calipers, which will want rebuilding, rebuild kits, brake cleaner, brake paint, new pads, new squeek plates etc etc you probably not far off a set of wilwoods really... And they do look awesome and they will be alot lighter blah blah.