Hi Charlie,
I hope op finds the flipping thing.
Lock down and other stuff has really bitten me this week. Need a win.
Come on op you can do it, it will be like sticking two fingers up to the dodgy dealer.
Jack
Technical Brava 1.2 obd location and alternator lead question
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Technical Brava 1.2 obd location and alternator lead question
I hope op finds the flipping thing.
Lock down and other stuff has really bitten me this week. Need a win.
Come on op you can do it, it will be like sticking two fingers up to the dodgy dealer.
Jack
It took me MONTHS to find the socket in the marea 
So with other options of location..it could take a while..
So with other options of location..it could take a while..
I better not hold my breather then
I like ops lateral thinking of plugging in at ecu connector but it could be harder to find the correct pins than locate the obd connector.plus danger of blowing the ecu back probing it's connector.
Oh well.
I think the op sees this a challenge now, goooood
I like ops lateral thinking of plugging in at ecu connector but it could be harder to find the correct pins than locate the obd connector.plus danger of blowing the ecu back probing it's connector.
Oh well.
I think the op sees this a challenge now, goooood
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Hi All,
Again, thanks for all your thoughts.
Here's a pic of the inside of the panel above the pedals, no obd there I don't think.
There's also another pic of a cable I found stuffed under the tangle of wires by the fuse box. It has a yellow bit on it (hopeful?) but seems to have this extra bit clipped on with the six red dots on. Any ideas?
It looks like it will unclip but didn't seem very keen so I didn't force it.
Steve
P.S
Some info on why this is important to me... My son had a real problem on losing his Grandad and focused (read obsessed for 4 years) on happy memories in his Marea.
I tried so hard to find a Marea but he seemed happy with the "same face" Brava.
It might sound extreme but it's transformed a depressed child into a really enthusiastic happy one - so I've GOT to keep it going.
Of course, two weeks after I bought it, a nice Marea appeared on Ebay, typical.
Still, he's happy and that's all I care about really, he loves this car unconditionally!
Again, thanks for all your thoughts.
Here's a pic of the inside of the panel above the pedals, no obd there I don't think.
There's also another pic of a cable I found stuffed under the tangle of wires by the fuse box. It has a yellow bit on it (hopeful?) but seems to have this extra bit clipped on with the six red dots on. Any ideas?
It looks like it will unclip but didn't seem very keen so I didn't force it.
Steve
P.S
Some info on why this is important to me... My son had a real problem on losing his Grandad and focused (read obsessed for 4 years) on happy memories in his Marea.
I tried so hard to find a Marea but he seemed happy with the "same face" Brava.
It might sound extreme but it's transformed a depressed child into a really enthusiastic happy one - so I've GOT to keep it going.
Of course, two weeks after I bought it, a nice Marea appeared on Ebay, typical.
Still, he's happy and that's all I care about really, he loves this car unconditionally!
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I don't know what year your car is.
Even if obd port not where this shows.
The image shows which things are monitored to turn light on.
There are not that many.
I don't know what year your car is.
Even if obd port not where this shows.
The image shows which things are monitored to turn light on.
There are not that many.
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https://www.outilsobdfacile.com/base_connecteur/fiat/punto-2-1/fiat-punto-2-1-obd-socket.jpg
I know it's punto but shows if has obd2 type plug it may have black cap covering it.
Plus look in that location on your bravo , you may have to remove a panel
I know it's punto but shows if has obd2 type plug it may have black cap covering it.
Plus look in that location on your bravo , you may have to remove a panel
Brim987
Your fusebox layout looks pretty much identical to my marea ...
However that is only the start..
For the port.. you want your head on the carpet..rubber heel pad
Looking up at the front lip of the dash.. underside of fusebox
Its tucked under there..
Ive just been looking at the GUIDE that I made.. I cannot see the OBD port until the black cover is removed.
Without any hints to location..it took me months (panda and punto are pointing out from fusebox.. but of course when the bravo-a were designed.. there was no port.. it was an addition)
The thread elsewhere..dated @2007 ..seemed to hint Diesels were 1st to get OBD2 .. the petrols were later..
Where are you based? Charlie
Your fusebox layout looks pretty much identical to my marea ...
However that is only the start..
For the port.. you want your head on the carpet..rubber heel pad
Looking up at the front lip of the dash.. underside of fusebox
Its tucked under there..
Ive just been looking at the GUIDE that I made.. I cannot see the OBD port until the black cover is removed.
Without any hints to location..it took me months (panda and punto are pointing out from fusebox.. but of course when the bravo-a were designed.. there was no port.. it was an addition)
The thread elsewhere..dated @2007 ..seemed to hint Diesels were 1st to get OBD2 .. the petrols were later..
Where are you based? Charlie
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Brim987
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>I don't know what year your car is.
it's Jan 2001, 1.2 petrol.
it's Jan 2001, 1.2 petrol.
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>Ive just been looking at the GUIDE that I made.. I cannot see the OBD port until the black cover is removed.
Do you mean the black cover inside, above the pedals?
I'll try looking again under the inside fuses, why is this so hard.
It took me about a second to find it in my Audi...
Steve
Do you mean the black cover inside, above the pedals?
I'll try looking again under the inside fuses, why is this so hard.
It took me about a second to find it in my Audi...
Steve
Because the manufactures were forced by legislation to start making them accessible and publishing where they were(-:
Yes..as per the Guide..
In the pic with the ELM cable plugged in the location is fairly obviously Behind the dash fascia.
What age Audi.. they are normally hidden
Oh no .
I can't find your guide while looking using phone, is it only visible using computer?
Plus I now want to know where the flipping connector is myself!
Jack
https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo-brava/295154-2001-brava-1-2-lambda-sensors.html
This may be super helpful.
We still don't know what year your car is by the way? ??Do tell
The above link has wiring diagrams that if apply to your car will enable you to identify which wires at the ecu connector go to diagnostic plug.
The link is to info for 2000 brava with two lambda sensors.
Please let us know if that matches your car ???
.Charlie will be more help than me with connecting your multi ecu software , kkl lead and laptop to the 3 wires than me.
Will watch and learn.
Plus where are you located?? You could be close by someone willing to help!
Huge well done helping your son smile again. I was very touched by what you posted, you are doing a good thing (-:
This may be super helpful.
We still don't know what year your car is by the way? ??Do tell
The above link has wiring diagrams that if apply to your car will enable you to identify which wires at the ecu connector go to diagnostic plug.
The link is to info for 2000 brava with two lambda sensors.
Please let us know if that matches your car ???
.Charlie will be more help than me with connecting your multi ecu software , kkl lead and laptop to the 3 wires than me.
Will watch and learn.
Plus where are you located?? You could be close by someone willing to help!
Huge well done helping your son smile again. I was very touched by what you posted, you are doing a good thing (-:
Connector A on engine ecu pin 25 is the one you want to read fault codes.
I nearly went blind tracing that on my phone screen!
Wire colour is BR in italian
White with red trace colour?????? Check that before proceeding.
Be careful interpreting diagrams of ecu connectors as it does say weather the diagram is view from front or rear of connector.
I nearly went blind tracing that on my phone screen!
Wire colour is BR in italian
White with red trace colour?????? Check that before proceeding.
Be careful interpreting diagrams of ecu connectors as it does say weather the diagram is view from front or rear of connector.
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Car is jan 2001.. so your wiring info should be relevant
On my phone the GUIDES come up ok
Its in Bravo-a. Marea Guides
On my phone the GUIDES come up ok
Its in Bravo-a. Marea Guides
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>you are doing a good thing
Thank you.
(He now wants to buy a farm, fill it with Mareas/Bravas and start a museum...)
and he's now doing a presentation at school about it - in his personalised t-shirt
with Brava pictures on it... What must the teachers think...
Ho Hum.
It's a 2001 car, I'm near Northampton.
I was just going to buy a 3 pin to 16 adaptor lead, only about 3 quid.. Easier than
mucking about with the wires... He says...
I'll have another look tomorrow if time allows..., but soon anyway...
Thanks to all...
Steve
Thank you.
(He now wants to buy a farm, fill it with Mareas/Bravas and start a museum...)
and he's now doing a presentation at school about it - in his personalised t-shirt
with Brava pictures on it... What must the teachers think...
Ho Hum.
It's a 2001 car, I'm near Northampton.
I was just going to buy a 3 pin to 16 adaptor lead, only about 3 quid.. Easier than
mucking about with the wires... He says...
I'll have another look tomorrow if time allows..., but soon anyway...
Thanks to all...
Steve
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>What age Audi.. they are normally hidden
2009 A3, bright purple in passenger well, hard to miss.
Accessible too, what were they thinking?
;-)
2009 A3, bright purple in passenger well, hard to miss.
Accessible too, what were they thinking?
;-)
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Well now I'm spoilt for choice, two contenders!
I managed to get the cap with 6 red dots off the lead by the suspension top/fusebox and it revealed the yellow/red connector.
I also managed to get the brake pedal in my ear and get the cap off the connector above the pedals, the white one. This might be the obd, but if so then what's the yellow/red connector?
Also, I was expecting a 3 pin diagnostic cable (can't even remember why, read it someplace) but it looks like a normal obd2 might even plug in...
Any thoughts appreciated.
Steve
I managed to get the cap with 6 red dots off the lead by the suspension top/fusebox and it revealed the yellow/red connector.
I also managed to get the brake pedal in my ear and get the cap off the connector above the pedals, the white one. This might be the obd, but if so then what's the yellow/red connector?
Also, I was expecting a 3 pin diagnostic cable (can't even remember why, read it someplace) but it looks like a normal obd2 might even plug in...
Any thoughts appreciated.
Steve
