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bloomfieldliam said:
A fully wired and plumbed in Hayabusa engined Cinq is 10k+!!!

How do I know? I enquired!

Crazy money for something that will only put out 160bhp without further tuning.

Liam
Got a feeling it'd be utter crap to drive too, the torque curve is all wrong for a car unless you're talking about racing. Probably wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding under 5k revs.

Would go like buggery from there to 13k(?) though.
 
I suppose you just have to re tune your ears and not change gear when you think you should. If you know what I mean? Go to the Honda S2000 and it would be similar.

Liam
 
Thats the only purpose of the rev counter.....

If yu can watch that bounce, thats when yu change ;)
 
My sister is gettin a 1.6 16v turbo engine stuck in hers by her boyfriend i think their mad especially as there will basically no wheelarches and heatshield left lol willbe interesting to drive 140 bhp the engine will by a marea engine with a turbo bolted on will keep everyone posted on progress and will be doin a step to step guide as well
 
Thats exactly what I'm doing - a Mid mounted 3.0 Alfa V6 Cinq.
I've got my cinq stripped out now, The engine's sitting on its subframe complete with suspension, hubs, brakes etc and has been clecned and overhauled, so Its nearly time for the fun bit to begin. Where did I put that angle grinder...
 
sorry my friend i dont agree,

The 2ltr Novas and Corsas don't handle that well in the bends, that's where the Cinq comes good!


i have been in a couple of 2ltr 16v novas now and as i have got a sei on 55mm drop novitec springs and my girl has got a cinq on 40mm drop, the nova will out handle the cento's any day of the week, any weather, any time, admitadly from own experience the heavy from end does "bounce" a bit which makes the ride a little harsh, there is far better cornering with the nova than the cento could ever dream of.
 
Is that maybe cos the Novas and Corsas are running 205 or 215 wide rubber? And no doubt sitting silly low?

And no doubt once you come out the corners the Nova's will rape you.

Liam
 
OK there seems to be 2 diff. debates running here.

1st, with imagination almost any engine can be fitted to any car, I know of someone who is building a Lancia Y (roughly same size as Cinq) with full 4 wheel drive 16V Integrale running gear and hopes to have it ready for next years London 2 Brighton run, it's been penned as the Yintegrale! :D

I've also seen a Renault 5 GT Turbo with full Sierra Cosworth engine and 4 wheel drive running gear, as well as MK2 Escorts and a Golf MK1 Cabriolet.

But as always, it's normally easier to stay with the same manufacturer as come to wiring up the loom it has less problems, I'm therefore a little surprised that I have not read about any Uno Turbo engines being trans plated over to Cinq/Sei's as this surely would be easier than bigger/dif manufacturer engines in there. :confused:

2nd. As for Nova's, my mate back in Glasgow (i'm from there originally) built the first ever in the UK 6 speed Calibra turbo'd Nova, this was about 8 years ago and it took him, with the help of the guy who Regal sub-contract their work out to 14months to build to a running stage, then a further year to get it perfect to iron out all the teething problems. He had bespoke ECU, exhaust , manifold, inter-cooler and specially valved Bilstein suspension as he found that the extra weight over the front had a dramatic effect on the under-steer characteristics of the car, this car eventually ran over 300bhp which had the effect of pulling the chassis apart so much that he had to get a whole host of triangular welds put in the struts at the front (rally car style) to hold the front on the car together. He eventually got feed up with it as my Renault 5 GT Turbo with about 160bhp at that time could easily get away from him on the twisty stuff. So he bought a MK3 Astra GSI and transplanted everything from the Nova to the stronger Astra shell, it was a much much better car, the Nova's an old design, and as such the shell flex's way to much to handle the power out of bends, ok in a straight line, but then so's a 7 litre yank tank :rolleyes:

I would say that, if you really want your car to corner well, spend the money on a proper days professional driving tuition at the many circuits there are in the UK, by the end of it you will be lapping at least 20secs faster and will have found ways of controlling your car at speeds you never believed where possible before. I've witnessed at Knockhill in Scotland a MK1 Golf with the original 1600cc engine with some mods being driven faster than a heavily modded Imprezza because the driver knew intricately where and when to brake, and how to feed power in as you corner. I've been lucky enough to have done it, and will no doubt do it again, as it's amazing what you learn. You could train a monkey to do a 1/4 mile run, but not corner fast :)
 
J333EVO said:
I would say that, if you really want your car to corner well, spend the money on a proper days professional driving tuition at the many circuits there are in the UK, by the end of it you will be lapping at least 20secs faster and will have found ways of controlling your car at speeds you never believed where possible before. I've witnessed at Knockhill in Scotland a MK1 Golf with the original 1600cc engine with some mods being driven faster than a heavily modded Imprezza because the driver knew intricately where and when to brake, and how to feed power in as you corner. I've been lucky enough to have done it, and will no doubt do it again, as it's amazing what you learn. You could train a monkey to do a 1/4 mile run, but not corner fast :)

:worship: Sweet reply!

Alfacento, pics? Sounds ambitious (y)
 
fixitagaintomorrow said:
1242 turbo?

16.odd sec 1/4 miles
max speed - governed by wheel/tyre size and rev limiter
Acceleration - quite adequate :)


I would also add to this that, maximum speed is also dictated by bhp versus drag. This is why say a Civic Type R with 197bhp is quoted as having a top speed of 146mph against say my integrale which has 210bhp, but a top speed of 137mph, ie the integrale with its flat front creating lots of drag stops it getting as high a speed as the slippery, but less powerful Civic. There is a much more in depth explanation of this in lasts months EVO mag which by chance used a Cinq as an example :D

It should also be noted that by definition torque is "a force that causes rotation" ie the acceleration of your car. Taking the example of the Civic again we see it only produces 145lb ft of torque compared with 220lb ft in the integrale which is demonstrated in the 0-60 times of 6.8secs for Civic and 5.5ish (the grale is always quoted as 5.7 but this is to 100kpm which is 62mph) for the integrale. (integrale also is over 100kg heavier) (y)
 
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joecinq said:
lol, tbh its probably just the fact that it is a hayabusa (love the name!). i just got the westfield car brochure through the post, they put it in their kit cars....

they do three types of bike engine, although the hayabusa seems the best by far-

Honda Blackbird- 1100

Honda Fireblade- 900

Suzuki Hayabusa- 1300 :D :D :D :D :D

How i see it is if westfield use it, it must quite decent...
did you see the westfield on Top Gear, it had a well decent lap time (approx 1 min 27), it beat a whole lot of other cars.

Joe

I is toying with the idea of putting a hayabusa engine in my lotus7 kitcar :D
how cum u got a westfield car brochure??????
 
Alfacento said:
Thats exactly what I'm doing - a Mid mounted 3.0 Alfa V6 Cinq.
I've got my cinq stripped out now, The engine's sitting on its subframe complete with suspension, hubs, brakes etc and has been clecned and overhauled, so Its nearly time for the fun bit to begin. Where did I put that angle grinder...

Jesus FU*KING christ - has everyone else overlooked this???
That is mental! The power to wieght ratio is going to take the ****!
And mid mounted it shouldn't sod up the handling?? If you make that all wheel drive then it's going to kill a lot of things - probably including my Dad's M3! I gotta see this... make sure that you take copious amounts of pics!

...this I wanna see :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Regards and good luck,
Matt
 
Is the Alfa V6 the same as the one used in the older Lancia's? if so i know a guy who did use that engine for racing is now goin in favour of a coupe 20v turbo engine HTH.
 
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