Technical barchetta 2.0 turbo

[btret]

Hello everybody, I'm back after my hollydays .......... I've a friend with a barchetta tuned with the 2.0 turbo 16 V of the fiat "Coupé". But in France it's impossible to drive with the modification because you are "outlaw". is it possible in U.K? and how to do in U.K?

Don't forget I'm french, so sorry for my not very good English.

See you

thank you

btret

French club

 

[Mad Matt]

If it's technically possible to fit the engine then yes you can drive it on the road in the UK. You'd need to tell your insurance though. It should pass the MOT (control technique) without a problem.

The UK doesn't really have the same idea of a certificate of conformity to original manufacturers specifications.

In Belgium yo can register a car as an "old timer", I don't know how old it has to be but I understand that the control is much less strict. However there are limitations on how far you can drive. I don't know if that exists in France.

 

[btret]

Okay, But the last problem is the adress in U.K for the barchetta registration in U.K : How to do? Is it possible to have only a postal adress without living in the U.K? How to open " a post office box" in U.K?.

thank you

 

[Davren]

A motor vehicle in the UK must be registered at an actual address. It can't be registered at a PO Box number.

Dave

 

[Mad Matt]

I see what you're thinking now! The other problem is that you are supposed to re-register the car in your country of residence if you're there for more than six months. So, if the police notice an English registered car and see that it's been around for some months they may start to ask questions.

 

[barchetta_97]

I've a friend with a barchetta tuned with the 2.0 turbo 16 V of the fiat "Coupé".

Could we have piccies of that? :yum:

 

[BIKER-BITZ]

Ive had my Discovery over here for 4 years now on English plates and whilst you are supposed to register within 6mths of arrival, they have not caught up with me yet!!

However, they chased me to register the Caterham until they realised that their system did not recognise Caterham's as existing. - They then went very quiet.

 

[btret]

Could we have piccies of that? :yum:

Pictures here: full motor/ Gear box/front wheels system coming from a "Coupé" Fiat turbo 2.0 16 and it's not very difficult at all to fit to the barchetta.

www.barchettaclub.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1473

Next time, pictured of the car ended

 

[btret]

Ive had my Discovery over here for 4 years now on English plates and whilst you are supposed to register within 6mths of arrival, they have not caught up with me yet!!

However, they chased me to register the Caterham until they realised that their system did not recognise Caterham's as existing. - They then went very quiet.

Don't worry, if you are English with a car with U.K plates and if you are living all the time In France (as a lot of English people!...), French Police never check it...

 

[btret]

A motor vehicle in the UK must be registered at an actual address. It can't be registered at a PO Box number.

Dave

Okay: it's what I want to know, so I've to find someone living in U.K who can say I'm living all the time with him in U.K to register the car at my name... because I canno't use a P.O.BOX...
I'm going to see with some friends living in England.
thanks

 

[LittleRedB]

Wow - love the conversion! Can you post up some more details and a few more photo's, also do you have any idea what BHP its running at?

Glad you chose a RED one to put the turbo engine in!!!

 

[ROJ]

Hmmm.. Ive been thinking of an engine swap since i 1st got the B... There is this Fiat Coupe with a snapped cambelt.. Is it possible it interchange parts from my B's 1.8 engine to bring the Coupe's 2.0 back to life & then drop it in the Barchetta? As both engines are very similiar?

The question is which will be better in terms of handling a Coupe or a B with a 2.0 turbo? Really thinking of such a project for the past 2.5 months...

 

[Rustbucket]

Hmmm.. Ive been thinking of an engine swap since i 1st got the B... There is this Fiat Coupe with a snapped cambelt.. Is it possible it interchange parts from my B's 1.8 engine to bring the Coupe's 2.0 back to life & then drop it in the Barchetta? As both engines are very similiar?
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Having had 3 coupes and 16V 20V 20VT I wouldn't go near an engine that had a snapped belt. Bent valves and knackered crank (shock) will be the least of it. I'd suggest going over to the FCCUK forum and asking around. The 20VT engine won't fit..too big and completely different gear linkages (unless you have a machine shop handy).

 

[btret]

Wow - love the conversion! Can you post up some more details and a few more photo's, also do you have any idea what BHP its running at?

Glad you chose a RED one to put the turbo engine in!!!

THE power coming out is 235 cv (sorry bhp) with ECU modified and with only 950 kg, dump valve, BMC kit, brakes by OMP, hoses brakes by hormann, springs , antiroll kit eibach and a lot of others things... It's not mine but the one of a french barchetta club member... When you drive it, it's the hell............:devil:

It's not difficult to fit, you just have to put the motor with gear box and front wheels blok into the barchetta... But you need too the ECu of the Fiat "coupé"

 

[ROJ]

I'd suggest going over to the FCCUK forum and asking around.

For a second i thought what is he saying?! LOL..

i got a machine shop at my disposal so shaping and altering parts isnt a prob.. but based on what you told me its quite a difficult project with a chance of it not succeeding.. i think im better off buying a 2nd hand coupe in such a case..

I dunno if its a naive question but what engine heads could be fitted over the b's 1.8 block?

 

[bulldog5046]

I dunno if its a naive question but what engine heads could be fitted over the b's 1.8 block?

i would seriously reconsider trying that, i dont know too mch about the 16vT specifics but it 'should' have sodium valves etc, even if your 1.8 head would fit you will probably melt it.

buy a crashed one and start there

or even just a second hand one, the 16v's go for peanuts

EDIT: just occured to me the 16VT and 20VT gear linkages are the same, so if ones possible the other should be....

 

[maddogmorg]

i would seriously reconsider trying that, i dont know too mch about the 16vT specifics but it 'should' have sodium valves etc, even if your 1.8 head would fit you will probably melt it.

buy a crashed one and start there

or even just a second hand one, the 16v's go for peanuts

EDIT: just occured to me the 16VT and 20VT gear linkages are the same, so if ones possible the other should be....

i read somewhere that the 1.8 16v as used in the B, Punto HGT is different to the 2.0 16v as used in the coupe and earlier cars. but the alfa romeo twinspark head may fit... can't remember where i read it but it's probably not true but you never know.

 

[bulldog5046]

maybe, i'd just get a 2.0 16VT head replace it, better than suffering in the future if you did manage to get it cobled together and working...

 

[LittleRedB]

I have always thought that the b would be near perfect if it were rear wheel drive and had a V-ee engine up front - an Italian TVR.......... :idea: now there's an idea!