Technical Automatic gearbox

[Kai63]

Hi, I have a Motorhome Burstner Argos 747-2 from 2004. The special with it is that the car have a 4 gear automatic gearbox, very unusual on these 747-2 motorhomes. The automatic gearbox is propably a ZF but not sure, its defenetly not a Robot gearbox. I have tried to seek what is the code for it but failed. maybe someone at this forum knows. The Burstner is build on Fiat Ducato chassi on AL-KO frame and a 2.8L JTD from 2004.
Thanks
Kai from Sweden

 

[bugsymike]

Hi, I have a Motorhome Burstner Argos 747-2 from 2004. The special with it is that the car have a 4 gear automatic gearbox, very unusual on these 747-2 motorhomes. The automatic gearbox is propably a ZF but not sure, its defenetly not a Robot gearbox. I have tried to seek what is the code for it but failed. maybe someone at this forum knows. The Burstner is build on Fiat Ducato chassi on AL-KO frame and a 2.8L JTD from 2004.
Thanks
Kai from Sweden

Don't know if related, but some years ago trying get a drive shaft for a smallbus/converted motorhome, I beleive that was ZF related and strangely like certain large Renault saloons around then, in so much as it was front engine, front wheel drive , but postioned front to rear and the gearbox pointed towards the "transmission tunnel" if it was normal front to rear old school.
A bit like Hewland Racing gearboxes style.
I appreciate yours is auto but may be of that style layout.
Incidentally if the transmission was rear wheel drive as the Iveco Daily and Renault Mascot/Mastif were rear wheel drive but used the same Iveco/Sofim 2.8 engine? Although I never came across an automatic version at the time, but there probably were some.
Any chance of a photo of the box.
Having said all this I am guessing yours is front wheel drive as using the AL-Ko frame.
If it is ZF there are companies advertising repars etc. in UK, maybe some nearer you.

Renault Gearbox Repair - Stephens Engineering

The automatic transmissions specialists at Stephens Engineering, regularly carry out Renault gearbox repair within our workshop. A common problem requiring a Renault gearbox repair that we often see with the Renault DPO gearbox, is a reported ‘slip and thump’. The…

www.stephensengineering.co.uk

 

[Kai63]

Don't know if related, but some years ago trying get a drive shaft for a smallbus/converted motorhome, I beleive that was ZF related and strangely like certain large Renault saloons around then, in so much as it was front engine, front wheel drive , but postioned front to rear and the gearbox pointed towards the "transmission tunnel" if it was normal front to rear old school.
A bit like Hewland Racing gearboxes style.
I appreciate yours is auto but may be of that style layout.
Incidentally if the transmission was rear wheel drive as the Iveco Daily and Renault Mascot/Mastif were rear wheel drive but used the same Iveco/Sofim 2.8 engine? Although I never came across an automatic version at the time, but there probably were some.
Any chance of a photo of the box.
Having said all this I am guessing yours is front wheel drive as using the AL-Ko frame.
If it is ZF there are companies advertising repars etc. in UK, maybe some nearer you.

Renault Gearbox Repair - Stephens Engineering

The automatic transmissions specialists at Stephens Engineering, regularly carry out Renault gearbox repair within our workshop. A common problem requiring a Renault gearbox repair that we often see with the Renault DPO gearbox, is a reported ‘slip and thump’. The…

www.stephensengineering.co.uk

I Think the gearbox is a ZF 4HP20 but not sure, have not checked under the car yet. but have do it pretty soon. the gearbox is slipping a little on low gears (1 and 2) and slow speed. I get some info that you could order a burstner 2004 with automatic transmission as additional equipment. but very unusual. The strange thing is that i asked burstner i germany and they could not tell me what gearbox i have!!

 

[bugsymike]

I Think the gearbox is a ZF 4HP20 but not sure, have not checked under the car yet. but have do it pretty soon. the gearbox is slipping a little on low gears (1 and 2) and slow speed. I get some info that you could order a burstner 2004 with automatic transmission as additional equipment. but very unusual. The strange thing is that i asked burstner i germany and they could not tell me what gearbox i have!!

You would have thought they would keep records.
At least with it being a high quality gearbox repairs should be possible, there seem to be several in the UK, but maybe harder to find where you are.

 

[Kai63]

You would have thought they would keep records.
At least with it being a high quality gearbox repairs should be possible, there seem to be several in the UK, but maybe harder to find where you are.

Correct, the one that came to sweden was imported from germany and all exept mine with manual transmission.

 

[Code Breaker]

Just my 2p worth, I had a 2003 Merc V Class Ambiente, it had the 'ZF 4HP20', began slipping as yours, had a oil and filter change (filter was the complete oil pan on that) all was good after that. I'm not saying that is your fault but worth researching and possibly save a lot of money and hassle

 

[jackwhoo]

https://en.fiatclub.eu/manual_download.php?id=646

4hp20

 

[bugsymike]

Just my 2p worth, I had a 2003 Merc V Class Ambiente, it had the 'ZF 4HP20', began slipping as yours, had a oil and filter change (filter was the complete oil pan on that) all was good after that. I'm not saying that is your fault but worth researching and possibly save a lot of money and hassle

Always worth checking, although the autobox on a 1965 Chrysler Valiant I had the filter was blocking and drive resumes for a short while only as bands friction material was breaking up.
After I sold the car for £20 with good number plate, my best mate? mentioned the garage he worked at on Jensen and Lotus used the same Torqueflite gearbox and he could have got it repaired for me!!!