General ASR - Is it Rather Too Effective?

[MisssportyGT]

ive only done it couple times xxxx xxx xx x hard to that on ps3

 

[The Sultan]

asr only reduces engine torque when it sees both front wheels spinning


if for example you are cornering and give it some boot in 2ndor 3rd and the car wants to pick up the inside wheel and spin it the abs will simply break that wheel to stop it transmitting the torque across to the wheel that has grip so faster yet because you have less tire squeal feels slower

and as for setting off with asr on has anyone tried letting it spool up to say 4500rpm and just dumping the clutch it's quite ubeleivable how much it gets the power down i tried this on a demo at work a diesel 1.9 puntogrande sport 130 was like a shuttle setting off inside lol

 

[John R Smith]

After reading Littelpip's post above I thought perhaps I was missing something here, and that ASR might actually give me a faster getaway. Having experimented a bit last night (purely in the interests of science you understand), I have to say that I am not terribly impressed.

On a very straight, level, deserted road, with excellent visibilty both to front and rear, I did some standing start tests with ASR on. Dumping the clutch quite sharply at 5,000 rpm in 1st gear, the ASR does not cope at all well. There was still an anguished howl from the front tyres, the ASR kicked in a good second later and the engine bogged as it suddenly cut power to the wheels (or braked the wheels, or whatever it does). The ASR did work, because the yellow light came up on the dash, but not quickly enough to control things, and when it did cut in it overdid the power reduction. I found that I could do a better job myself feathering the clutch and throttle in usual fashion with ASR switched off.

It would be interesting to know how the road test 0-62 mph times were taken - ASR on or off?

John

 

[gumball]

asr only reduces engine torque when it sees both front wheels spinning


if for example you are cornering and give it some boot in 2ndor 3rd and the car wants to pick up the inside wheel and spin it the abs will simply break that wheel to stop it transmitting the torque across to the wheel that has grip so faster yet because you have less tire squeal feels slower

and as for setting off with asr on has anyone tried letting it spool up to say 4500rpm and just dumping the clutch it's quite ubeleivable how much it gets the power down i tried this on a demo at work a diesel 1.9 puntogrande sport 130 was like a shuttle setting off inside lol

A decent launch here,

 

[Gordini]

ASR generally comes in too early and too much on road cars, rather like ABS. Shame really, but they do have to cater for the lowest common denominator of inexperienced drivers.

 

[The Sultan]

After reading Littelpip's post above I thought perhaps I was missing something here, and that ASR might actually give me a faster getaway. Having experimented a bit last night (purely in the interests of science you understand), I have to say that I am not terribly impressed.

On a very straight, level, deserted road, with excellent visibilty both to front and rear, I did some standing start tests with ASR on. Dumping the clutch quite sharply at 5,000 rpm in 1st gear, the ASR does not cope at all well. There was still an anguished howl from the front tyres, the ASR kicked in a good second later and the engine bogged as it suddenly cut power to the wheels (or braked the wheels, or whatever it does). The ASR did work, because the yellow light came up on the dash, but not quickly enough to control things, and when it did cut in it overdid the power reduction. I found that I could do a better job myself feathering the clutch and throttle in usual fashion with ASR switched off.

It would be interesting to know how the road test 0-62 mph times were taken - ASR on or off?

John

the light shouldnt come on when it's working unless it's not happy with what it's got to deal with the reason for this is to stop people thinking there is a fault on it when there isn't

i have tried out one in a 500 today our sport that has just been sold 1.4 16v maybe you just gave it to many revs and to much clutch dumpage and it just said no after all there's no point in giving it what you obviously know is way more power than is needed to deal with is there i think a little bit of common sence needs to prevail here

try to get it just above the point were you would feel quite planted setting off your self and see how it handles it also if you wana see it using the brakes do it with say one turn of lock on like if you were setting off at a junction and gave it some you should then notice it stooping the inside wheel spinning followed buy some extra power at the outside wheel propelling you tighter into said corner pretty fun stuff

if your sure the asr is not working right as i say the ones i have driven have been spot on then it's worth having your dealer check out the adjustments on the clutch switch the brake switch you can check yourself simply buy looking at the brake lights

 

[Ulpian]

Phew! You write like a Roman

 

[The Sultan]

Phew! You write like a Roman

well i have been trying to somewhat condense what i say here on the forum from day to day in my posts

the reason for this is that i for some reason bought a rubber flexible keyboard now it's all very cool it lights up blue and every thing not that i turn the light on very often but it is good for drinks as it's water proof but back to the point i find it very hard to type with and i am constantly missing letters out and spaces then have to use the spell checker to put them back sometimes i even make mistakes wile correcting my mistakes

so to sum up that's the reason i have not written so much in my posts recently

i do have a normal keyboard two in fact but using that would be admitting to myself that buying this new one was a waste of time and money therefore i just can't do that

i am currently looking for another keyboard that lights up blue but has normal keys so if anyone knows of such an item that is fairly cheap i would be very great full if you could pm me a link

if anyone else on the forum finds they spend far to much time typing here on the fiat forum and would like to reduce it to a level much less than most like i have then i suggest they buy a keyboard like mine

they are available here
http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/office-toys/bendi-light-up-keyboard/index.html

or if you want one a little cheaper maybe search ebay

 

[John R Smith]

i have tried out one in a 500 today our sport that has just been sold 1.4 16v maybe you just gave it to many revs and to much clutch dumpage and it just said no after all there's no point in giving it what you obviously know is way more power than is needed to deal with is there i think a little bit of common sence needs to prevail here

Littlepip, of course you are right. But common sense and I have always been strangers. I am sure that the ASR works very well indeed in normal circumstances (when a psychotic maniac is not at the controls). You see, I am one of those people who never actually managed to grow up. I used to love my old Mini-Cooper 1340cc (original version, 1965) because when you gave it a bootfull in second it would torque-steer to the left like crazy and uphill on a bumpy lane the steering would also go light and the whole thing was nearly uncontrollable. But there I was, having great fun at 45 mph and no danger to anyone except myself

It's stuff like that that I miss.

P.S. Come to think of it, though, I actually broke the crankshaft on the Mini pulling standing starts, so perhaps it's just as well that Fiat protects people like me from themselves . . .

John

 

[306maxi]

well i have been trying to somewhat condense what i say here on the forum from day to day in my posts

the reason for this is that i for some reason bought a rubber flexible keyboard now it's all very cool it lights up blue and every thing not that i turn the light on very often but it is good for drinks as it's water proof but back to the point i find it very hard to type with and i am constantly missing letters out and spaces then have to use the spell checker to put them back sometimes i even make mistakes wile correcting my mistakes

so to sum up that's the reason i have not written so much in my posts recently

i do have a normal keyboard two in fact but using that would be admitting to myself that buying this new one was a waste of time and money therefore i just can't do that

i am currently looking for another keyboard that lights up blue but has normal keys so if anyone knows of such an item that is fairly cheap i would be very great full if you could pm me a link

if anyone else on the forum finds they spend far to much time typing here on the fiat forum and would like to reduce it to a level much less than most like i have then i suggest they buy a keyboard like mine

they are available here
http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/office-toys/bendi-light-up-keyboard/index.html

or if you want one a little cheaper maybe search ebay

Yes those rubber keyboard are horrible

Might I suggest one of these? I've got a slightly fancier version with an LCD screen attached but it has a blue backlight on the keys and it's excellent to type on. Have had it for over a year and it's still great Pricey.... but well worth it.

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=15264&source=googleps

 

[The Sultan]

Yes those rubber keyboard are horrible

Might I suggest one of these? I've got a slightly fancier version with an LCD screen attached but it has a blue backlight on the keys and it's excellent to type on. Have had it for over a year and it's still great Pricey.... but well worth it.

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=15264&source=googleps

that's great thanks i do have some logiteck equipment and find it to be quaity stuff