Advice needed regarding timing problem

[vincentvega]

Hi all,


Im hoping I can get some advice regarding a current situation I am in.
I have a Fiat Doblo Multijet van, that went in to a local garage for a new clutch. Whilst in said garage I received a phone call informing me that my water pump had a leak. I agreed to the price to change the pump, no problem.
So I picked the van up, all fine. 3 days later the van suddenly cuts out on motorway slip road, not turning over, nothing at all.
AA recovered me, and diagnostic machine picked up a timing issue.
Got recovered to a garage near to where I broke down, garage looked at engine and agreed its a timing issue, None of the top end was moving, but bottom end was.
I spoke to the garage who changed the water pump and told them I am bringing the van back to them as I suspect the problem may have something to do with the changing of the water pump.
Am I correct in saying that when changing the water pump, the tensioner on the timing chain would have been loosened thus altering the timing?
Or is the water pump on a Doblo driven by a separate belt?
Would anyone have any advice on what's happened?
Doe's it sound like the timing hasn't been set correctly or the tensioner not tightened?
Also if the garage are looking liable but not accepting fault, how do I go about approaching the situation?
It seems a huge coincidence for it not to be anything to do with the water pump change if its driven by the timing chain.


Many thanks in advance


Josh

 

[dave]

100% they havent done the job right and wrecked your engine, if they have just renewed the pump and not also fitted a full belt kit they probably have tried to do it with out even fully removing the belt

 

[vincentvega]

100% they havent done the job right and wrecked your engine, if they have just renewed the pump and not also fitted a full belt kit they probably have tried to do it with out even fully removing the belt

Thanks for the prompt reply.
Please excuse my ignorance, but bell kit? And should this have been carried out with the pump change?


Thanks again


Josh

 

[dave]

normally you fit cam timing belt kit and water pump at the same time or at least advise the customer that that is the best thing to do.

i am asuming you have the 1.9 engine?

 

[vincentvega]

normally you fit cam timing belt kit and water pump at the same time or at least advise the customer that that is the best thing to do.

i am asuming you have the 1.9 engine?

no 1.3 multijet diesel.
Does this alter things?


cheers


Josh

 

[dave]

ah yes i dont know that engine i know it has a chain not a belt but no idea what the pump runs off

i reported the thread to get some one who does to have a read

 

[vincentvega]

ah yes i dont know that engine i know it has a chain not a belt but no idea what the pump runs off
i reported the thread to get some one who does to have a read

Yes, definitely a chain.
That's great thanks dave, much appreciated.
I need to know whats what before I get the van back to them!!


Thanks again


Josh

 

[dave]

ive just had a look on ebay for water pump and it looks like it runs off an auxiliary belt so will be unrelated to chain going, sorry for getting your hopes up

 

[vincentvega]

ive just had a look on ebay for water pump and it looks like it runs off an auxiliary belt so will be unrelated to chain going, sorry for getting your hopes up

No problem at all, thanks for the advice.
Like I say, just need to be clear before I go to the garage!


Thanks


Josh