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Just to chuck in another angle: how many of the people in favour of hunting think that bear-baiting, cock-fighting and dog-fighting shouldn't have been banned?

Those "sports" also kept people in jobs and were "traditional" yet they were banned and nobody misses them. And class is irrelevant here as dog fighting in particular was primarily a "working-class" pursuit.
 
And here was me thinking the advent of computers would mean the paperless office, no secretaries, no admin, workforce gone - how wrong I am.

I blame Jethro Tull for all this....lol.
 
Prince Charles? No thanks, I am not a big royalist at the best of times nevermind "Him". He met Tony Hawks once though, who told him he was leaving later to go around Ireland with a fridge, he didn't even bat an eyelid, he wasn't listening.

JB, the fact that they were working class pursuits is probably why they were banned long ago.
 
The other Mr Hawks :p Stu, if you haven't read Round Ireland with a Fridge, do so, excellent read and you may know some of the places etc. I am trying to get Playing Moldova at Tennis and One hit Wonder as we speak :)
 
Should we have had a go at Mr Henry Ford also for his model T and first mass production methods.....or should we be happy not all cars cost £100k+
 
We're just making inline comparisons with your defence of fox hunting with hounds I do believe....
 
Stuart DemonD said:
Tony Hawks is a THUG :) or was that the game he developed, hmmm :)

LOL Tony Hawks gets kids mailing his website asking him all about skateboarding. He mails them back telling them they are annoying little tw@ts and should just f*ck off and die. And thus they think they've just been told this by their idol Tony Hawk. PMSL when I first read that.

sorry to be offtopic, but couldn't resist.
 
pghstochaj said:
Should we have had a go at Mr Henry Ford also for his model T and first mass production methods.....or should we be happy not all cars cost £100k+

Paul, I'm afraid you've lost me on this one, surely the production line provided more employment for those who operate it? Unless in 19-whatever they had fully-automated vehicle production ;)
 
pghstochaj said:
Should we have had a go at Mr Henry Ford also for his model T and first mass production methods.....or should we be happy not all cars cost £100k+
But what happened to all the horses then?

Ah, but at least a man carrying a red-flag got a job :)
 
Vin, after reading his book I could probably believe that, he doesn't seem one of too many formalities, just hope he is like that in real life (to a point!).

JB, with the invention of mass production techniques like that over time, the labour force of the motor industry (compared to output, that's important) has dropped. If we still used the previous techniques, al la Aston Martin, we may have beautiful cars but they sadly wouldn't be within the reach of most.
 
I didn't know he had accepted that, I missed it, that's good, did this thread help?

I thought he was still saying that it's good because it helps keep jobs which isn't a valid reason and trying examples of why progress is a good thing. :)
 
pghstochaj said:
the labour force of the motor industry (compared to output, that's important) has dropped.

But overall there were (are) more people employed in the motor industry than prior to the production line being introduced. So surely the ratio of jobs to population (THAT'S the important figure) was increased? Although it could be argued that hordes of low-skilled production jobs took the place of a few highly-skilled craftsmen...
 
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