AAAAAAAaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

[Helz]

I am not a happy bunny right now . As you know, 3 months ago I had my car resprayed, primarily because it was showing spots of rust around the rear arches, secondarily to change colour. At the time I pointed out the rust around the rear arches and that it needed looked at, he said he'd do it. Today I was checking tyre pressues and with the angle of the sunlight, spotted the rear arches are rusty again ALREADY. I'll be taking it up first thing tomorrow but to be honest there's not much he can do in one the one day I'm off work and I can't be without the car again as I now have no second car to rely on. Neither do I have enough money (due to payroll changes at work) to take it into say County Motors and get it all done there. Only real option is to use the sandpaper and galvanising primer I have bought and sort it myself then touch it up as best as I can. Not really what I expect 3 months after getting it back - 3 years maybe!

:bang:

 

[custard]

helz i wouldnt touch it.your right and rust should in no way be returning in such a short time.surprised they didnt suggest fitting a new arch at the time of spray

 

[bulldog5046]

yeah sure as hell go back and complain, he obviously didnt do anything other than spray over it

 

[Helz]

Given my points above, what should I ask for from the bodyshop? A proportion of money back so I can afford to get it done at CM (never thought I would say that but I'm running out of ideas of places to go that can sort it right now), to have the arches sorted AGAIN (but I can't be without the car), a proportion of money back and DIY?

 

[dave]

make him fix it and loan you a car

 

[bulldog5046]

well ask for a curtousy car as you HAVE to have transport and tell them to sort it, you paid them to and they havent, if they refuse tell them you'll take legal action against them....

 

[Helz]

Thanks Dave and Ryan - to be honest that would be my preferred option, I just wasn't sure if it was unreasonable to ask for that! Will also ask him to patch it up tomorrow so it doesn't worsen as I know he won't be able to fit it in before Donny with all the usual last minute stuff. Then get it done properly afterwards.

 

[dave]

and tell him to buy some of these http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060531170 for his grinder, they get a lot of rust out with out the need to replace a pannel, if used with a good acid based rust eater

 

[Helz]

I would have thought he would have known to use rust eater/ something to get surface rust off with, galvanising primer then normal primer then paint and lacquer. Even I know that, it's not rocket science Now you know why I'm tempted to do the job myself. Perhaps I should be more specific this time than 'there's rust on the rear arches here and here and here *points*, can you sort it please?' :bang:

 

[Steven]

Helz, I've never seen a Bravo/a with rust around the arches before. Is it one side or both? Was the car accident damaged at all?

 

[Helz]

It was originally only on one side, now on both. It's from stone chips, there were a fair few of them on the drivers arch and also on the main bodywork that had gone through the galvanisation, down to the metal and started rust spots. I don't mean big patches, I mean tiny spots you wouldn't see unless you looked for them but I feel it's better to get things tackled early than let them continue and need major work doing. That was the entire point of getting the respray as it would cost almost as much to get the individual chips sorted as to get the whole car done.

 

[dave]

Helz, I've never seen a Bravo/a with rust around the arches before. Is it one side or both? Was the car accident damaged at all?

you never seen one from Carlisle before, remember all them floods?

 

[sammiboo]

I very much doubt they will give you money to get it done somewhere else, they would offer to 're-do it for you. But kick some ass. Thats really bad!

 

[Helz]

Problem with them re-doing it is the lack of a courtesy car, as I said I cannot afford to be without it, would take me HOURS to get to work in the morning, literally! I guess I'll just have to demand they provide one and see what is said.

 

[PNL]

Sorry to hear this Helz but from by knowledge of metal once the rust has taken hold its very hard to eradicate and the only way to get rid of it to some degree would be to grit blast the surface treat and re-coat

 

[Helz]

Update - went to see him this morning and he has stripped back what he can see and patched it up in black until after Donny. Also gave me a couple of options for afterwards, the most likely of which (and what I think should have been done in the first place when he knew there was rust there!) is to take the wheels off and work inside the lip of the arch and ensure it is all rust free and tight. Another option is to replace the arches now but that seems a tad drastc given the amount of rust present.

 

[custard]

only thing i would say is you cant beat new metal.new arches will last so much longer than a repair TBH.depends on budget TBH

 

[Helz]

Ah but had it been done properly in the first place, we most likely wouldn't be having this conversation now. Let's see what happens when it IS done properly

 

[custard]

well thats what im thinking helz,at least if you get new metal in its done and dusted.sounds like he just rubbed it down and sprayed over it

 

[Helz]

Can't really aford it right now though due to payroll changes at work At least if he redoes it, he's doing it on his own time and money! Can always relook at it in a few years time