Technical  500 Body Galvanising

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Technical  500 Body Galvanising

John R Smith

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Just to demonstrate how useful the info on the eLearn CD can be -

Several times there have been questions on the Fiat Forum about bodyshell protection. Well, the little 500 is very well protected, as this extract shows -

"Galvanized panels
The zinc deposited in a continuous layer on the surface of the panel constitutes the first line of defence against corrosion of the steel. The zinc layer acts as an active chemical protection for the steel, known as a sacrificial layer, that combines with the subsequent protective systems to guarantee outstanding long-term corrosion-proofing.
The galvanizing of the panels takes place directly through two different technological processes, both capable of ensuring constant thicknesses of zinc with a high standard surface finish:
  • Galvanizing: the panel is immersed in a solution of zinc salts and a layer of pure zinc is deposited by means of the electrolytic effect; the normal thickness of the zinc deposit is 8 - 10 micron.
  • Hot galvanizing: molten zinc is deposited on the panel due to the effect of heat. In this case too the normal thickness of the zinc is 8 - 10 micron, but thicknesses of up to 20 micron can be reached using this process and it should be used for the parts most exposed to corrosion.
The two processes allow galvanizing on both sides of the panel.
It is therefore possible to produce simultaneous protection for both the inside and the outside of all panels and, in particular, protection of the surfaces in contact with several elements welded together.
Panels galvanized on both sides account for 90% of the vehicle body weight.
In particular, all the parts that make up the chassis, most exposed to corrosive agents, are 100% galvanized.
Of these, the structures defined as safety structures, such as the suspension mountings and reinforcements for the seat belts, are made from panels with a high zinc thickness, up to 20 micron.
The body is made entirely from 8 micron galvanized panels for the doors, bonnet, boot lid, side panels, wings and roof.
The exception is some of the inner parts of the passenger compartment because there is no risk at all of oxidation such as, for example, the dashboard mounting brackets.

Anti-corrosion test
All the anti-corrosion provisions made have been subjected to laboratory tests and they have performed well in accelerated tests on vehicles carried out in special test areas, where the most stringent conditions of the central-northern European markets have been reproduced."

So there you go.

John
 
Thanks for that, John. Any chance you do requests?
I want to know if the external temperature display can be activated, I cannot find it in the manual or computer menu.

Grazie,

Tony.
 
Tony

As far as I can see, the external temperature display cannot be de-activated. It should always be there.

John
 
John, very interesting to read this topic as I was afraid that there were rust spots starting to appear on the boot of my wife's 500.
It seems that whenever it rains or if it is damp overnight little brown spots appear on the paintwork. They almost completely polish out but there is always a tiny spot left which the moisture reacts with to make the bigger spots.

If it was a second hand vehicle my guess would be that the boot had been resprayed and that tiny metal particles in the air (possibly from someone using an angle grinder or similar in an adjacent area) were caught in the spray from the gun and became part of the paint finish (if I had wanted a metallic paint I'd have specified it on my order :)).

I shall monitor the situation and if it carries on happening I'll contact the Fiat bodyshop and ask for their opinion. At least with the galvanisation process you have mentioned, the rust, (if that's what it is) shouldn't affect the actual bodywork of the car below the paint layer.
 
Hmmmm. I wonder if the boot-lid had been damaged in transit and was re-sprayed at Portbury?

John
 
I have had this on a number of cars in the past which have not been repaired in any way. My conclusion was that it is debris from the brake discs ( which are designed to wear? ) and pads, your own and other peoples which all gets thrown up at the back of the car. Tiny little specs of rust with a metallic sheen all over the rear hatch. They do T cut off however.
 
I have had this on a number of cars. They do T cut off however.

I will try something more abrasive like T cut this weekend. So far I have only polished using Auto Glym Resin polish. Thanks.
I have noticed that the rear of the car gets much dirtier than the rest of the vehicle, seems to attract dirt like a magnet. Maybe it's something to do with the shape, would love to see it in a wind tunnel scenario.
 
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As far as I can see, the external temperature display cannot be de-activated. It should always be there.

Does this mean I should be able to see the outside temp? 'Cos I cannot.:confused:

Also, is it possible to turn on the tail lights with the daylight running lights?

See what you've done, you're now the Oracle!(y)
 
Tony

I am not the Oracle at all, LittlePip is :)

The DRLs run alone, without the rear lights. The only way to get the rear lights to come on is to use dipped headlights, or sidelights when parked.

From memory (and I can't recall where I saw this) it may be that you only have the external temp display if you have the electrically heated wing mirrors.

John
 
I checked this last night -

The external temperature display is provided only with the electrically heated wing mirrors. You only get those on the Lounge and Sport models, not the Pop.

John
 
and to add to this fiat are now galvonising the sub frames under the car whereas before they would rely on shear mass to keep them in solid working order

in the mk2 punto's case and maybe a few other models only after say 10 or 11 years in harsh environments would things like rear engine mount break free due to constant movement and vibration coupled with welds getting rusty but that's the only long term posible problem i can think off as far as sub frames go

they are also starting to use alloy sub frames to reduce weight and save on fuel whilst increasing rigidity of the suspension this has turned up in the new fiorino so far
 
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