30th November - Strike

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30th November - Strike

I suppose mate,

Was just curious about the effects. I ****ing hate how our government is so "talk talk talk talk" never "do do do do"

Just to throw another idea, does anyone think policies set out by Parties should be made a legal requirement that they follow them once elected?

EDIT: @chrisUK: what is the australian system

It's a score based system based on a number of factors. Basically it's all to do with "what will you contribute to australia" if they don't like your answers you don't get a visa :)
 


Good.

Speaking as someone who is married to someone who is going to be affected by this, public sector workers realise there are going to need to be changes.

Final salary pensions are unfair and I think they should go. I think most people are realistic about this.
In terms of working longer, I think people are realistic about this too, but having someone working as a teacher or Police officer till they're almost 70? I think the quality of services will really suffer. There needs to be a middle ground between what the govt offered and what people previously had.

I just disagree completely with the way the government have gone about this. It's meant to be a reasonable discussion and they've been trying to demonize public sector workers and in particular teachers.

I should mention that I am generally fiercely anti-union. Does anyone remember the fuel tanker driver strikes a few years ago in the midst of the credit crunch? Everyone was ****ting themselves wondering when they were going to lose their jobs and these guys were asking for MORE pay. Teachers have a pay freeze, they did strike against it but most now regret that strike considering how others were worrying about their jobs and so on and there they were complaining about not getting a pay rise. But this time it's different.

I hope that the govt gives the unions a decent offer and we don't see more strikes.
 
I dont believe anyone would just start shouting that sort of abuse for no reason, especially a woman alone with her child.

The camera may well have been rolling for 30 minutes previous to what was uploaded to YouTube, we don't know, but uploading the whole video wouldn't have had the desired effect so maybe, just maybe, the beggining was intentionally thrown on the editors floor before uploading?



You think she's the only one on that tram who is on benefits .. :ROFLMAO:

Oh no I'm no saying she was the only one on benefits of course :)

But the thing is that if she were living in Poland she'd come over here too.

I'm Australian of course and I NEVER had an issue with people coming to Australia as long as they were wanting to contribute and I think on the whole most immigrants do integrate and contribute.

There are some who don't, but there are also a lot of British people who don't either. Why should a British person who is a lazy **** have more of a right to benefits than a lazy person from outside the UK? There's a Jabba the Hut style looking woman who lives up the road in a housing association house with about 8 kids who doesn't even bother being a parent to her children. They play in others front yards, play on the road and just generally make a nuisance out of themselves. One of them was even involved in a stabbing while his friends were stealing he motorbike of someone in the area. They would be no worse if they were foreign......

I think people are missing the point when they see a foreign lazy tw@t on benefits. It's not because he or she is foreign, it's because he or she is lazy.
 
The answer even with a fully 100% sorted country is never 0 immigration. The 'pool' goes stagnent unless you introduce new beings.

I like the Australian system tbh even if they all are a bunch of arrogant, bbq'ing fosters drinking kangeroo lovers :D

I don't drink fosters :mad:

Completely agree about immigration too. Australia does have a good system. The problem that the UK has is that it's part of europe and to effecively function as part of a wider economy you've got to allow the free movement of workers.

Australia isn't in the same situation and can look a bit better at what people can offer and weigh it up against what the country needs or is going to need in the future.
 
I dont believe anyone would just start shouting that sort of abuse for no reason, especially a woman alone with her child.

The camera may well have been rolling for 30 minutes previous to what was uploaded to YouTube, we don't know, but uploading the whole video wouldn't have had the desired effect so maybe, just maybe, the beggining was intentionally thrown on the editors floor before uploading?



You think she's the only one on that tram who is on benefits .. :ROFLMAO:
Even if the camera had been rolling from one end of the Underground to the other there is no other explanation for that kind of calm, prolonged outburst than drink/drugs/ mental illness. That was just a mental rant, not a reaction to an insult. Goodness only knows what that little boy is being brought up to see and hear.
 
I don't drink fosters :mad:

Completely agree about immigration too. Australia does have a good system. The problem that the UK has is that it's part of europe and to effecively function as part of a wider economy you've got to allow the free movement of workers.

Australia isn't in the same situation and can look a bit better at what people can offer and weigh it up against what the country needs or is going to need in the future.
Absolutely right. The rdiculous thing about our system though (as I suspect you already know), is that if you come here from outside the EU and want to settle here legitimately, you have to jump through all sorts of hoops, and also spend a fortune, and be able to demonstrate having money in the bank etc.
if however you come in on the back of a lorry and claim to have had your passport taken from you by tribal militia then you can dispense with all the above.
Ok, small exaggeration maybe, but nevertheless unfair in all respects.
 
how about we follow though with the only plan what Cameron copied from labour i can remember i agree with to make anyone on benefits work. (no it wasnt a tory idea it was started to be implemented a few months before they came to power)

what is it 200 quid per week make em work 30 hours per week volenteering cleaning cutting grass, etc

no cause with a few of the ideas the earth would be flat not round.
but i think they should have to hold a revote if they break 5%
Does that Babel Fish site still work, where you can translate the inintelligible in to English?
 
Absolutely right. The rdiculous thing about our system though (as I suspect you already know), is that if you come here from outside the EU and want to settle here legitimately, you have to jump through all sorts of hoops, and also spend a fortune, and be able to demonstrate having money in the bank etc.
if however you come in on the back of a lorry and claim to have had your passport taken from you by tribal militia then you can dispense with all the above.
Ok, small exaggeration maybe, but nevertheless unfair in all respects.

I think so far it's cost me about £2k? Probably getting on for 3 if I want a British passport.....

As for people on lorries..... well if they're genuinely in need of help then it's our duty to help them, simple as that. As to whether they're all genuinely in need..... that's another question.
 
if there was more jobs dole can be fazed out, instead of a giro you get told to go to the job they give you or have nothing

I'm sorry, but there are some people who will never work if they can get money for doing nothing.
 
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