Technical 2001/2002 fiat ducatto washer bottle

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Technical 2001/2002 fiat ducatto washer bottle

Any of these look anything like it?

Second hand sellers are not going to know it by part number, so best bet is to search by description.
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Nothing like the ones on that motorhome looks to be from the older version
I see , so that's the part number you quoted . It looks like you have the wrong part number .

Is your van a 230 , or 244 . The age you mentioned is right on the change over , so you could be the last of the 230's , or one of the very first 244 . I'm gonna be honest here , i have a 2000 , 2.8 , and have had a few problems with parts being different , to what the computer says is fitted , to my particular van . The most notable being a coolant hose , which i eventually sourced in Poland , and another being a low pressure return hose fitted in the power steering circuit . I've still yet to source one , but it's looking like a custom job here , and the only real part i've failed to locate . To make matters worse , people (including parts department staff) do tend to confuse the two vehicles . The only real difference is mechanical , and generally that's limited to the fuel system . However , i do know there are differences with the timing belt , and water pump arrangement , but overall it's the same basic engine . One further thought is what hand is your vehicle , mine is a lefty . A right hooker will probably have the brake master cylinder on the opposite side , which would probably mean issues with battery placement . My battery is on the offside , with the master cylinder on the near .

My van is an x230 2.8 idtd , basically the same as a 244 2.8 jtd , in fact like i said it's the same engine , except i don't have the extra electronics . This type of bottle is fitted to my van , though i don't have headlamp wash , but that's a relatively easy issue to overcome .
 
Removed the current one from the van and this is what it looks like
 

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the pRT NUMBER was from eper using the vin numbers so id hope it is right

Well i'm afraid you can take it from me , it's not . The link i sent you was for the part number you quoted , and if you care to take a look yourself , you will clearly see that part number , in the second group of numbers just above the price . There will not be a second part with that part number , they are unique to only one part .
Now then , with that said i can clearly see , that my link is nothing like your picture . It does however look very similar to this one ;

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/dpa/13162...2hNvAbnZfBfZdD4RHKH43r9R0AUteMCkaAvc2EALw_wcB

Which is strange as it's fitted to vehicles in the Volkwagen group of companies . I can find no record of it ever being fitted to any Fiat vehicle , however it did come up following a google search aimed specifically at Fiat , and is being marketed by the same company to which the original link i sent , took you .

Your pretty much in the same boat as me , with a missing hose i need . The part is listed as unavailable on the parts list , but the storeman gave me the part number so i could try and source elsewhere . Two weeks before Christmas last year , after searching for 4 months , i actually located one . It was in Germany , meaning it was almost certainly for a left hooker , so i bit the bullet , and ordered . It was wrong , way too short , and not cheap either . I've been manually searching ever since , with no luck . So i'm now thinking outside the box , and going custom . In my case , i will just go to a hydraulic specialist , and get one made , retrofitting something like a washer bottle is not quite so easy . I can't tell you what will , or won't fit , and you must be prepared to lose money with parts that turn out to be no good . It's a real game of chance , pure pot luck if you like , but what i will say though , the second link i sent you maybe worth a punt . In your position i would take a chance . It's almost the same , and handed the right way , you just might have to be imaginative with fixing it in place .

One other thought here , it took me three years to locate a fuse block for my van . I fitted it last year , all the way from Lithuania .
 
Well i'm afraid you can take it from me , it's not . The link i sent you was for the part number you quoted , and if you care to take a look yourself , you will clearly see that part number , in the second group of numbers just above the price . There will not be a second part with that part number , they are unique to only one part .
Now then , with that said i can clearly see , that my link is nothing like your picture . It does however look very similar to this one ;

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/dpa/13162...2hNvAbnZfBfZdD4RHKH43r9R0AUteMCkaAvc2EALw_wcB

Which is strange as it's fitted to vehicles in the Volkwagen group of companies . I can find no record of it ever being fitted to any Fiat vehicle , however it did come up following a google search aimed specifically at Fiat , and is being marketed by the same company to which the original link i sent , took you .

Your pretty much in the same boat as me , with a missing hose i need . The part is listed as unavailable on the parts list , but the storeman gave me the part number so i could try and source elsewhere . Two weeks before Christmas last year , after searching for 4 months , i actually located one . It was in Germany , meaning it was almost certainly for a left hooker , so i bit the bullet , and ordered . It was wrong , way too short , and not cheap either . I've been manually searching ever since , with no luck . So i'm now thinking outside the box , and going custom . In my case , i will just go to a hydraulic specialist , and get one made , retrofitting something like a washer bottle is not quite so easy . I can't tell you what will , or won't fit , and you must be prepared to lose money with parts that turn out to be no good . It's a real game of chance , pure pot luck if you like , but what i will say though , the second link i sent you maybe worth a punt . In your position i would take a chance . It's almost the same , and handed the right way , you just might have to be imaginative with fixing it in place .

One other thought here , it took me three years to locate a fuse block for my van . I fitted it last year , all the way from Lithuania .
you origanl link is a differ number to what i quoted

1333885080

Sku: 5090042OE


Original Parts Number: 1308480080

EAN: 4059743180407



anyway look like im trying to find some sort of universal tank that may fit into that gap
 
you origanl link is a differ number to what i quoted

Oh i see , i never noticed that . I have got too much going on this end . I've got 12 pages open , on the computer right now .

Can i ask , what's wrong with your original . I'm guessing it leaks , can you not repair it .
 
Oh i see , i never noticed that . I have got too much going on this end . I've got 12 pages open , on the computer right now .

Can i ask , what's wrong with your original . I'm guessing it leaks , can you not repair it .
Unlikely it's 5 cracks in the bottom of it and not much chance of glueing it with what's it's made of
 
Unlikely it's 5 cracks in the bottom of it and not much chance of glueing it with what's it's made of

Yeah i see , pretty much what i figured . Plastic is difficult to glue at the best of time , that's why i learnt to plastic weld . That little skill , has saved me over two grand to date . I would never suggest this with any kind of consumption storage tank , as i don't know what harmful effects could result , however as it's a windscreen reservoir , it is possible to repair using another method i learnt last year . It is however a long and drawn out preparation process , and a serious issue could be access . You must have full access to all the damage at least on one side .

As it's an engine component , you must first thoroughly degrease the bottle , both inside and out , with a proprietary degreasing agent . I would not advise the use of gunk , which tends to foam (personally i use a product called marine clean) , it needs to be strong but none foaming , ideally bio degradable . Scrub the area on the outside , if need be with a fine pan scrubber . Use the green type , this will scratch , but don't worry . Try and get into the crack as much as you can , and flush the inside several times , allow the bottle to dry .
The next stage is a little tricky , as ideally a Dremel , or similar , would be a serious advantage . You need to open the crack out slightly , i use an engraving bit in my Dremel , but it can be done with a sharp craft knife . Just for christ sake , watch you fingers . Scrape the blade sideways along the crack , getting the point into the crack . Don't worry about finish , and most importantly , don't go all the way through . The object is to open the crack out slightly , and produce a key for the glue to grip at the same time , along with a larger glue area . Now wash thoroughly again , but use washing up liquid this time . Again allow to dry thoroughly , for at least 24 hours , more if possible .
Now using a super glue (there are many brands to choose from) fill the crack , and follow immediately with either baking soda , or bicarbonate of soda . Make sure you get this powder into the crack , and it soaks into the glue , apply more glue is necessary .
I'll be honest here , it will look a mess .
Once dry , the surface will be left hard and uneven , which is difficult , though not impossible to sand , but you will need a Dremel . So take your time , and try to produce a tidy join . It really is a case of what you see , is what you've got , however don't forget the speed a super glue takes to cure . Leave for at least 12 hours , however i would recommend at least 48 , perhaps even several days if possible before getting it wet .

It is not a difficult process , but is time consuming . I have used this method to repair all manner of things , from freezer baskets , to a clutch bracket on my van , though i will admit , i reinforced the latter . At present i'm repairing thin plastic trim from the van . It's far too thin to use a conventional plastic welding process .
 
One if the broken bits is cracked on nearly all sides so had no strength left so probably won't even be able to attempt that as it folds inside 5he 5ank if you as much as tip it upside down



It's Allmost like its Been hit by a hammer
 

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@typecastboy don't suppose you have a fiat 500 washer bottle to hand you'd be able to measure for me?

Looking at listings on ebay for one it's looks like it may fit in the gap between then bumper and the cross members
I do indeed. I have three spare ones. I'll have a look in the morning and let you know.
 
@chris3234 not sure which specific measurements you need so I've measured to and from various points as below

Total height - 52m
Diagonally centre of mounting hole to centre of mounting hole - 16.5cm
Widest point of bottom part of reservoir - 12cm
Narrowest point of bottom part of reservoir - 10cm
Widest point of top part of reservoir - 15cm
Bottom of reservoir to top of reservoir - 31cm

Hope that helps
 
It's Allmost like its Been hit by a hammer

Yes indeed , it is in a bit of a state . It does look like it's being hit with a hammer , and there even looks to be a bit missing as well . Interesting it's received such a blow , as normally these things are tucked outta the way . Mine is on the nearside inner wing , which if i'm right , is probably where your battery lives . The most likely cause is probably down to the fluid freezing , but to reach the lower parts like this , it would have been completely . My guess would be , it was pure water . I've never suffered a total freeze in 45 years , in any of my cars , but i do have a very strong washer mix , which i maintain , summer or winter . Anyway you seem to have formulated a plan , so i'll back on outta here . As i said earlier , i'm extremely busy with my own van . I've got a major job running , with 2 other , not so major jobs running in the wings . And paint , but i've had to shelve that recently , due to the heat . I'm slowly managing to close pages down on the computer , down to 9 now .

One final comment on the water bottle though , it could still be repaired . The freezer basket i repaired was not quite in such a bad state , but it did have bits hanging off . And of course , being made from flimsy brittle plastic , it also had no strength . You really had to be careful just picking it up , else you could cause even more damage .
The part was irreplaceable , so the only course of action was to attempt a repair , which though successful , was very time consuming . I could only work in one area at a time , due to the properties of the glue , and secure the rest with masking tape . That was over a year ago , and it's back in use , with no signs of the repair breaking down .

Anyway , i'm outta here , good luck my friend .
 
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Yes indeed , it is in a bit of a state . It does look like it's being hit with a hammer , and there even looks to be a bit missing as well . Interesting it's received such a blow , as normally these things are tucked outta the way . Mine is on the nearside inner wing , which if i'm right , is probably where your battery lives . The most likely cause is probably down to the fluid freezing , but to reach the lower parts like this , it would have been completely . My guess would be , it was pure water . I've never suffered a total freeze in 45 years , in any of my cars , but i do have a very strong washer mix , which i maintain , summer or winter . Anyway you seem to have formulated a plan , so i'll back on outta here . As i said earlier , i'm extremely busy with my own van . I've got a major job running , with 2 other , not so major jobs running in the wings . And paint , but i've had to shelve that recently , due to the heat .

One final comment on the water bottle , in that it could still be repaired . The freezer basket i repaired was not quite in such a bad state , but it did have bits hanging off . And of course , being made from flimsy plastic , it also had no strength . You really had to be careful just picking it up , else you could cause even more damage .
The part was irreplaceable , so the only course of action was to attempt a repair , which though successful , was very time consuming . I could only work in one area at a time , due to the properties of the glue , and secure the rest with masking tape . That was over a year ago , and it's back in use , with no signs of the repair breaking down .

Anyway , i'm outta here , good luck my friend its the uk passanger side battery is on the driver side in RHD moddels at least


and shouldnt have frozen as its broken in the last weeks weeks so no chance of having frozen


theres also all the cracks where you can see the purple staining from the screen washer that was poured in when the leak was found


anyway it sounds like the 500 one will fit in the gap hopefull get one mounting point lined up and the have to fabricate a bracket or somthing to hold it elseewhere
 
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@chris3234 not sure which specific measurements you need so I've measured to and from various points as below

Total height - 52m
Diagonally centre of mounting hole to centre of mounting hole - 16.5cm
Widest point of bottom part of reservoir - 12cm
Narrowest point of bottom part of reservoir - 10cm
Widest point of top part of reservoir - 15cm
Bottom of reservoir to top of reservoir - 31cm

Hope that helps
mainly the height with and lenth but thaks for those it sound like it should fit into the gap and will have to try and fabricate a bracket or somthhing to hold it in place
 
and shouldnt have frozen as its broken in the last weeks weeks so no chance of having frozen


theres also all the cracks where you can see the purple staining from the screen washer that was poured in when the leak was found


anyway it sounds like the 500 one will fit in the gap hopefull get one mounting point lined up and the have to fabricate a bracket or somthing to hold it elseewhere

Your last message seemed to be a little mixed with my last post , but from what i read , it sounds like you have a similar layout to my left hooker . The battery on mine is on the offside , with the master cylinder on the nearside . In front of that i have my airbox , and behind that , bolted to the inner wing is my washer bottle .
I'm at a loss as to how your bottle suffered such damage , because these things don't normally break on their own , still what's done , is done .
A bracket shouldn't cause too much of a headache , i'm in the process of doing the same , actually it's almost complete . I converted the radio aperture to double din , and i figure , the radio maybe a little heavy , to be supported in the same way a single din is . The dashboard aperture is already converted , it's just waiting for final finishing , but again it's too hot . One of the smaller jobs i have . The major job , is power steering overhaul . It's all in bits now , i just gotta start refitting the new parts . It's been a serious headache finding the bits , and i've still not found one .
 
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