Technical 2000 Fiat Mirage Camper 2.8idtd hard to start.

[FiatMirage]

Hello from Norway

Thank you all for letting me join. I have a problem with my 2000 Fiat Mirage Guibileo Camper. It has the 2.8 idtd engine, has run 85.000 Km and got a new timing belt with water pump changed last summer. The car was working just fine untill a month ago. Now it will take approx 10 seconds of cranking everytime to start it. This happends on cold, and warm engine. Everytime it starts its the same time frame.. approx 10 seconds. i do not see any glow light when starting. Can it be that the diesel pump lets go of the diesel everytime it stops and that it needs to rebuild pressure to start ? Any help would be very much appreciated

 

[varesecrazy]

Hi

Do you mean the 'glow plug symol'
Never shows..?

Or never displays after starting??

Another possibilty: CommonRailDiesel
It needs to spin the HighPressure fuel pump pretty fast to get the FuelRail up to a good pressure..
low pressure and it will not inject fuel into motor

So worth trying booster cables onto battery..
if starting improves.. Check the battery and starter for performance

Charlie

 

[Communicator]

Hi,

The 8140.43. 2.8 idTD (injection direct Turbo Diesel) does not use conventional glow plugs. It is not a common rail engine.


In ambient temperatures below 0C, both the idTD and the 2.8 jtd use a flame start device.


On the idTD engine, there is a an automatic injection advance device for cold starting, but this is described as failing to the start position. Is it possible that this device has stuck in the running position? Worth checking to eliminate it as a cause.

For details of both flame starter and idTD injection device see attached link to an interesting site.

To confirm that fuel is reaching the injectors, you could slightly loosen a fuel delivery pipe at an injector, and check for fuel leaking, when starting is attempted.

https://motor-roam.co.uk/ducato-cold-start-flame-start-system-explained