Argonought said:

Can't say I ever use mine but very handy if you ever break your hand

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Funny you should say that, that was the exact reason to start using mine, after I broke my right hand last year

extreme self abuse

custard said:

extreme self abuse

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Well you live and learn :devil:

PNL said:

Well you live and learn :devil:

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.....has Stu has just clouted custard around the ears with his good hand then?

My right hand is hard as rock now - that bone won't be breaking again

jut1972 said:

could this help the judder problem? if its supplying more revs at low speed?

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i know what you mean by Judder mine did this until i stopped using BP and changed to Shell it runs great now, and i thought it was my driving!!

cazz said:

i know what you mean by Judder mine did this until i stopped using BP and changed to Shell it runs great now, and i thought it was my driving!!

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Something wrong with your motor if it can't use standard fuel

You sure it's not just the weather that's changed

I leave the 'City' button on all the time. I think it's a terrible shame that people out there are avoiding the use of such features so as not to wear them out...

Anyway I see no advantage in the steering being artificially 'heavy'. It doesn't help the wheels grip the road any better.

The steering on the Stilo (by TRW) works by a manual steering rack having an electric motor in the steering column. So much simpler than a hydraulic system & pump... It's brilliant and makes you wonder why someone didn't try this a very long time ago. The Mk2 Punto had a similar system but I think they turned down the assistance a little for the Stilo and managed to insulate the motor better, so it's not quite so exciting

-Alex

alexGS said:

Anyway I see no advantage in the steering being artificially 'heavy'. It doesn't help the wheels grip the road any better.

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True Alex - but it does allow you to feel the road a tad better.

....which could be critical in icy conditions

alexGS said:

I leave the 'City' button on all the time. I think it's a terrible shame that people out there are avoiding the use of such features so as not to wear them out...
Anyway I see no advantage in the steering being artificially 'heavy'. It doesn't help the wheels grip the road any better.
-Alex

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Agree, You dont need to feel the road through the steering, you feel it in the seat of your pants if its starting to slide, I leave it on all the time.

Even seen some staff almost wet themselves though to find it on if they have to go up the road for a test drive.

oilrag said:

Agree, You dont need to feel the road through the steering, you feel it in the seat of your pants if its starting to slide, I leave it on all the time.

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I prefer mine without dents

Argonought said:

I prefer mine without dents

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City Drive question

Was wondering the other day....If I drive with City Drive on all the time does this effect the car or the cars performance?

I know its supposed to be for parking manoevering but have always loved it on all the time, and now and then will turn it off if I go on the Motorway.

Any information would be great and I can if I'm doing something bad I can change my bad habits or just carry on driving without worrying. LOL

Cheers

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It will switch its self off at speed its only for parking..after some failures with the duel logic power steering in the panda section I'm beginning to see a pattern developing ..use it and the unit is failing and don't use it and the unit doesn't and for that reason I don't use it..not that its even needed on the new panda cos the car is sooooo light anyway..

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PNL said:

It will switch its self off at speed its only for parking

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It doesn't switch itself off mine is always on even at speed

if I'm doing something bad I can change my bad habits or just carry on driving without worrying. LOL

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Never had a problem with having it on all the time.

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PNL said:

It will switch its self off at speed its only for parking..after some failures with the duel logic power steering in the panda section I'm beginning to see a pattern developing ..use it and the unit is failing and don't use it and the unit doesn't and for that reason I don't use it..not that its even needed on the new panda cos the car is sooooo light anyway..

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Mine does not switch off at speed either.
Is that a feature they added later to stop the motor burning out from being used all the time.
In the past I have heard about it failing if it is over used, it could be only on heavy cars like the JTD or Abarth though.

Myself: I never use it as steering is very light anyway.

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City display will stay on the dash but wont operate over certain speeds ..will kick back in again when you drop below 30/40 mph.. bad habit though if you ask me and your asking for a burn out and a bill of huge proportions..£600 + for the unit and labour + no Christmas pressies this year for you..

https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/83422-please-help-steering.html

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john55 said:

Mine does not switch off at speed either.
Is that a feature they added later to stop the motor burning out from being used all the time.
In the past I have heard about it failing if it is over used, it could be only on heavy cars like the JTD or Abarth though.

Myself: I never use it as steering is very light anyway.

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It doesn't switch off as such but the assistance is disabled at speed (anything over 40 I believe) and as you say it removes what precious little road feel the Stilo provides. It also increases the load on the front wheels (if you hit a kerb) whilst parking so, rather ironically, that's another reason I don't use it.

However, I'm led to believe it improves the slow running characteristic of the engine (for city driving) so that might be a reason to try it :chin:

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Argonought said:

However, I'm led to believe it improves the slow running characteristic of the engine (for city driving) so that might be a reason to try it :chin:

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Noooooooooooo.. only wussy button user is Decks ..dont go there..:nono:

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decks posted once that there IS a performance difference with it on/off, and he posted a graph too if i remember correctly.

i was going to ask about this, see if there really IS a "characteristical" difference, could it be "mapped"?