Technical Abarth coil springs

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Technical Abarth coil springs

srvben

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Yes, this is yet another coil spring thread!:eek:

Here's the background: I was driving my '03 5-door Abarth recently when, after an hour of a rather unusual jangly sound that I couldn't quite identify, the last half a turn of the front right coil parted company with the car. I am very glad I got round to getting that recall done!

So, a new pair of standard springs were ordered and arrived t'other day, along with a new pair of anti-roll bar drop links as the old ones were getting a bit noisy over rougher terrain. I decided to fit all of these myself despite the warnings regarding doing the coil springs yourself; I've got a decent set of spring compressors and was fairly confident I could do a good job.

Getting the old ones off and new ones on wasn't overly difficult - yes, I was a little surprised at how much compression you need to put the springs under to get the top strut mount back on - but I made sure everything was lined up correctly and reinstalled them on the car.

Took it out for a short spin and was initially impressed at how the turn in was noticably sharper, but after about 5 mins there was a serious knocking noise when driving on a very light trailing throttle - just maintaining a consistent speed. Braking or accelerating seemed ok. I headed straight home and was surprised when the front started scraping on our far-too-bumpy gravel access road; previously it had never scraped on even the worst bumps. Pulling up in our drive and having a look at the front end I was shocked at how low the front end is now sitting - it looks like it's braking hard just sitting still! Looking up into the wheel arch I could see that the spring looks almost fully compressed under the car's weight, as there is very little space between the coils, and therefore just about no useful suspension travel. Sorry about the rubbish quality pics (and the embarrassingly filthy Abarth) but hopefully you can see what I mean.

The other thing I noticed when I reinstalled the struts is that the top cap in the engine bay doesn't clamp tightly down on the bodywork - there's a slight gap. The top nut that secures the top mount and spring protrudes through the hole in the bodywork slightly so that the cap tightens up against it. Is this normal? I wish I had checked how they were before I took the struts off.

Anyone else think I might have been sent springs for maybe a 1.2 Stilo instead? They weren't packaged in the original box but do have part number of sorts printed on them - once I've taken them back off I'll have a look at ePER and see if they match up. Funnily enough I did notice that one of the springs had marks on it that made me think it had seen a spring compressor before. I'm going to speak to the company I bought them from tomorrow.

Any other opinions or advice greatfully received!

Ben
 

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that looks wrong.

i wouldnt know if that was a spring problem or fitting problem.

will wait till someone more knowledgeable arrives :rolleyes:

but it does look very wrong :(
 
I knew there was a reason I kept you on:D No paint marks, paint marks if they are genuine should be on second coil up from bottom.
 
I changed my springs not long back and they are fine yours look absolutely WRONG, which company did you get them from?
Karl
 
Thanks for the replies.

They're not Fiat springs - they are supposedly AMK ones which I got from A to Z Motor Spares. I've used them for other Stilo stuff in the past without fault. I've also fitted pattern coil springs on other make vehicles before without any problems, so I wasn't overly concerned (until now perhaps!) about using non-Fiat ones.

Took the front left wheel off just earlier and could see some kind of part number printed on them - 01240022 (I think the first digit is 0 - it's partially rubbed off). That was the only marking on them, no yellow dot like the original ones that came off. Unfortunately AMK's online parts catalogue isn't working at the mo so I can't check up on the part number.
To be honest I was surprised at how cheap they were; I'm not one to get the cheapest of everything if at all possible, but was perhaps a little blase in this case! I think a refund (if possible) and some genuine Fiat ones might be the way forward.

Cheers

Ben
 
Hi Ben,

Have you had any joy with the Springs for your Abarth?

I also need 2 front springs for my Abarth and was about to order from AtoZ Motor Spares, however since your experience I am not sure whether to get them or not. :shrug:

In the past I have purchased springs (for another Stilo) from the dealer and got sung £80 per spring.

I wonder where other Abarth owners on the forum got theirs Springs from? :chin:

Cheers

Wynd
 
Thanks for the replies.

They're not Fiat springs...

I haven't yet seen a non-genuine set of Stilo springs that sit/look right. They always seem to have an unnatural excessive 'bow' to them with the weight-off, and it gets worse once they're actually on the car.

Genuine ones look identical at each end when you first see them, but put them on upside-down and you soon spot the mistake! Just remember- paint marks at the bottom. ;)
 
Thanks for the reply Argonought unfortunatley shop4parts.co.uk do not sell coil springs for an Abarth.

Could someone please recommend where I could get springs for an Abarth Please? other than a Fiat dealer.

Many thanks
 
You want part # S4P2148 which are same as JTD115 springs.

I should know as I've got a full Abarth set on my JTD and it kinda seems logical that it must work in reverse.

Ask them if you don't believe me :)
 
Argonought,

Didn't mean to doubt you but I had asked shop4parts if the springs (S4P2148) would be compatible with an Abarth, I was told that "Sorry but unfortunately we do not stock the Abarth spring".

However I suspect that you are correct - because the springs are being labelled up as a part for a JTD115 that was why they said they responded by saying that they do not stock Abarth springs.

Thanks for your help Argonought!
 
Sorry for not responding; not been on in a few days and expected my thread to have died by now!!

Left the car alone for a wee while and meant to call AtoZ back, but never got round to it.

Just called them again and am waiting for a ring back - will let you know of any results.

Incidentally when I first spoke to them they said that the 2.4 springs weren't for Abarths. I know there's a 2.4 Prestigio (or something) but I suspect that the vast majority of 2.4 Stilos on the road in the UK are Abarth varients! I could maybe see why the Abarth would have slightly stiffer springs to go along with its 'sporty' pretentions, but at the end of the day the weight of the engine, air con etc is gonna mean a pretty similar spring requirement. I still think I got sent wronguns!

Ben
 
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