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Technical plugs, leads and coils??

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Hi guys

I'm going to order myself a new set of ht leads and plugs to see if they'll help with my judder on my 1.2 active 8v 2006. I've seen some on euro car parts but not sure which to buy. Please could one of the professionals point me in the right direction? I'm only getting the plugs and leads to start with and if judder persists I'll get 2 coils. Please can you advise from the photos below?

Cheers

Neil
 

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Coils go for tge magnetelli ones
There oe equipment the other one is a white box surprise so no idea what your getting

Hts id recommend the 12 £ ones as they have longer holders for cylinders 2 and 3 which makes them easier to fit and remove


The spark plugs I need to look up the correct one, but get ngk as again there like the best and recommeded by fiat in the manual

Ziggy
 
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Ziggy122 said:
Coils go for tge magnetelli ones
There oe equipment the other one is a white box surprise so no idea what your getting

Hts id recommend the 12 £ ones as they have longer holders for cylinders 2 and 3 which makes them easier to fit and remove


The spark plugs I need to look up the correct one, but get ngk as again there like the best and recommeded by fiat in the manual

Ziggy
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Thanks Ziggy

I've seen some of your other threads mentioning NGK but it threw me that there were two kinds. I'll await your response

Cheers fella

Neil
 
Ziggy122 said:
Coils go for tge magnetelli ones
There oe equipment the other one is a white box surprise so no idea what your getting

Hts id recommend the 12 £ ones as they have longer holders for cylinders 2 and 3 which makes them easier to fit and remove


The spark plugs I need to look up the correct one, but get ngk as again there like the best and recommeded by fiat in the manual

Ziggy
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Hi Ziggy

I'm going to order these today, shall I just go with the dearer NGK plugs?

Cheers

Neil
 
Ziggy122 said:
Neex to ensure you get correct ones
Ecp online parts guide aint 100%

To be sure id ring local branch and double check
Bkr5ez is the spark plug code which the ngk website says if you have 14mm plugs
Most puntos are those

Ziggy
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Alright guys

Quick update

Done leads and plugs (they were original Fiat 12mm) and I'm still suffering from the judder issues. Think I'll try changing the coils next which are most likely original ones (car has done 50k). I'll report back once done

Cheers

Neil
 
I think you need to define the 'judder' a bit more as you may be throwing good money away.
If the revs are too low, then the car can judder quite noticably. It is common on this engine for the uninitiated, and something to adapt to. (adjust your driving style)
If the revs drop too low, the ecu/icv will kick the revs up, then back, this causes a judder.
The bottom engine mount is also a culprit for making it worse.
Highly unlikely to be anything to do with ignition.
 
Twotoncarman said:
I think you need to define the 'judder' a bit more as you may be throwing good money away.
If the revs are too low, then the car can judder quite noticably. It is common on this engine for the uninitiated, and something to adapt to. (adjust your driving style)
If the revs drop too low, the ecu/icv will kick the revs up, then back, this causes a judder.
The bottom engine mount is also a culprit for making it worse.
Highly unlikely to be anything to do with ignition.
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Hi

I've read numerous threads on juddering, kangaroo-ing etc and the first advice on most of them was start on the ignition parts first but as mentioned earlier they probably needed doing anyway after 50k so not lost money yet.

My judder happens in the lower gears but only after reasling my foot off the gas, its slightly Judders then once a press the clutch it stops. I've also had two occasions in the last week where when setting of in 1st the car has kangarooed violently causing me to stop it and start again. I've only had the car a few weeks so I'm still getting used to it.

Any advice gratefully received

Cheers

Neil
 
neilhaj said:
Hi

I've read numerous threads on juddering, kangaroo-ing etc and the first advice on most of them was start on the ignition parts first but as mentioned earlier they probably needed doing anyway after 50k so not lost money yet.

My judder happens in the lower gears but only after reasling my foot off the gas, its slightly Judders then once a press the clutch it stops. I've also had two occasions in the last week where when setting of in 1st the car has kangarooed violently causing me to stop it and start again. I've only had the car a few weeks so I'm still getting used to it.

Any advice gratefully received

Cheers

Neil
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Hi Neil

All I can say is the advice on the ignition parts is generally incorrect for what you describe, especially coils !!. One does not change coils as a service part, unlike spark plugs. Even leads are highly unlikely to fail. They would also cause issue all the time.
What you describe appears to be an issue with your driving style. You are letting the engine revs drop too much so the antistall kicks in. also, applying too little power at too low an rpm / incorrect gear.

You check the bottom engine mount as well as this does not help, however, it is not the cause, it simply exacerbates the issue. It is a VERY common failure item.

I suggest you book another lesson with your driving instructor in your own car.
The fact that you ask questions about when to change gear tends to indicate a lack of understanding that should have been instilled by your instructor. (Maybe a different instructor would be better in this case)
 
Twotoncarman said:
Hi Neil

All I can say is the advice on the ignition parts is generally incorrect for what you describe, especially coils !!. One does not change coils as a service part, unlike spark plugs. Even leads are highly unlikely to fail. They would also cause issue all the time.
What you describe appears to be an issue with your driving style. You are letting the engine revs drop too much so the antistall kicks in. also, applying too little power at too low an rpm / incorrect gear.

You check the bottom engine mount as well as this does not help, however, it is not the cause, it simply exacerbates the issue. It is a VERY common failure item.

I suggest you book another lesson with your driving instructor in your own car.
The fact that you ask questions about when to change gear tends to indicate a lack of understanding that should have been instilled by your instructor. (Maybe a different instructor would be better in this case)
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Hi

Thanks for the advice, I'm hoping your are right and its down to me being a newbie. My instructor never let me learn while wearing my work boots (steel toe and sole) and most of incidents occur when wearing my boots. I'll try using my shoes and putting boots on when I get to work.

Thanks again

Neil
 
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