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stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

Was driving my courtesy car home tonight and the stop start worked fine until a major junction.

It kept trying to start the car but it wouldn't 'catch', missed a green light much to the annoyance of the cars behind.

Eventually I got it started by giving the throttle a bootful when it tried to start.

Cause?

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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

Sounds very obvious but how much fuels in the motor?
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Sounds very obvious but how much fuels in the motor?
Showing 3/4 of a tank, range of 343 miles, why?

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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

only issues i have seen are the reverse
low battery meaning start stop doesnt function at all
is it possible the car has been sitting for a while?
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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

Less than a minute.

It was in the queue at the St James roundabout, the lights change very frequently, letting only 2 or 3 cars out at a time.

It was quite happy to try to turn the starter, tried to start but just wouldn't catch. Because my foot was on the clutch (which actuates the starter sequence) it just kept trying to start, half a rev, cut out, starter actuates, half a rev, cut out etc etc.

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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

this is exactly the scenario that makes folks wary of these systems
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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

I haven't experienced S&S that badly yet on my Evo or atleast not given it a chance to, I've certainly been at lights & clutch down, as they've turned green... just for the engine to try starting but then not & due to stress i just turn it off/on via key.

Also I've had good runs with it, where it takes xx time to start up and i've gotten used to it and adapted my driving to that start up time.... just for it to decide to take longer this time resulting in tits-off revs or wheelspin, or a complete stall.

When it comes to my next car, I'll certainly be taking S&S as a Negative rather than a Positive - S&S is just another variable drivers don't need.
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I've had contuinuous problems with the S&S basically it very seldom seems to work. I took it in to the the dealer and the mechanic said he plugged it into the computer and it said it was because I didn't use my seatbelt. Is asked what he meant and he said there was something like 700 recorded journeys with no seat belt used. I stated that I NEVER drive without a seatbelt but he was going by the computer. I am kinda puzzled by this and a bit worried incase there is some seatbelt sensor issue. ANyeone else heard this?
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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

Quote Originally Posted by Blank2k2 View Post
- S&S is just another variable drivers don't need.
Except it keeps your road tax costs down.

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Quote Originally Posted by ayrshiredude View Post
I've had contuinuous problems with the S&S basically it very seldom seems to work. I took it in to the the dealer and the mechanic said he plugged it into the computer and it said it was because I didn't use my seatbelt. Is asked what he meant and he said there was something like 700 recorded journeys with no seat belt used. I stated that I NEVER drive without a seatbelt but he was going by the computer. I am kinda puzzled by this and a bit worried incase there is some seatbelt sensor issue. ANyeone else heard this?
It doesn't mean the number of journeys with the belt released, only that the belt not been plugged in with the engine running and while the S/S is in it's operating 'window'. For example, if you have driven off before clipping the belt in, or release it before switching the engine off.

If the belt isn't clipped-in, the red warning lamp will be on.
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Except it keeps your road tax costs down.

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I'd rather pay 10-15/year more tax and know my engines going to be there when i need it than risk getting rammed up the backside cause the car stalled at the lights
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I'd rather pay 10-15/year more tax and know my engines going to be there when i need it than risk getting rammed up the backside cause the car stalled at the lights
I quite agree. So many problems reported seem to be down to Stop/Start. If they can't fit something to a car that's actually gonna work then don't bother fitting it at all.

I'd just switch the damn thing off and leave it off.
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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

I think the system has more pro's than con's, plus the attendants at drive throughs look at you funny because the engine starts whilst you have both your hands on the wheel.
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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

Quote Originally Posted by Blank2k2 View Post
I'd rather pay 10-15/year more tax and know my engines going to be there when i need it than risk getting rammed up the backside cause the car stalled at the lights
Do you realise that all car manufacturers are mandated to reduce overall emissions? If we don't have stop/start, we have slower cars.

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Re: stop start fail:- what did I do wrong?

Well, I've just had my first genuine reason to avoid S&S equipped cars in future.

Stopped car, Neutral, clutch up, Engine stopped *Beeeep* "Start & Stop Unavailable"

Had to turn car on again via ignition.

The engine was warm it had been driven about 25 miles, the day before i did 100mile trip so the battery should of been fully charged, no reason for it to happen.

I hope it was a fluke & not the start of something cause if it makes a habit of that i'll be asking the dealer to set default to Off.
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