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Old 05-09-2017   #16
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90% of my driving is around town. A couple of months ago I went to Cramlington and I had no issues whatsoever on the motorway, the long climbs on the M74 were fine so long as you were doing around 75 before hitting them, below 70 and the revs dropped, get into 4th and the car would then accelerate fine and you could then get back into 5th.
For rapid progress use the gears freely in the 1.2.
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thanks again for all the replies

i am really looking foward to getting behind the wheel of a panda again

the car i have chosen appears to have 5 seatbelts fitted and i've attached a picture of something below, which i am not sure is?

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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

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thanks again for all the replies

i am really looking foward to getting behind the wheel of a panda again

the car i have chosen appears to have 5 seatbelts fitted and i've attached a picture of something below, which i am not sure is?

Its the Sat Nav port
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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

i thought that might be it - should it have a sat nav with it then or was it an option just?

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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

option,but not cheap !
check ebay if you want one, Alfa use the same (it apparently detects the car and changes the look to suit- ie Alfa badge or Fiat badge on the display ) you also get touch screen access to Blue and Me which is probably the most useful feature !!
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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

i am so sorry for all the questions now

the car i am buying has the steering wheel controls and blue tooth, so should it have the sat nav to go along side those?

when looking for a car most of the lounge models didn't have this - so its what swayed me - would a link to the car help? But if the sat nav is a big key to their functionality then its going to be an issue

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Steering wheel controls are normal way of using Blue and Me features ie phone and USB storage by voice commands or using buttons to go through menu options. Sat Nav gives you a touch screen display so easier to use ?
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i am so sorry for all the questions now

the car i am buying has the steering wheel controls and blue tooth, so should it have the sat nav to go along side those?

when looking for a car most of the lounge models didn't have this - so its what swayed me - would a link to the car help? But if the sat nav is a big key to their functionality then its going to be an issue

http://www.central4cars.com/cars/fia...ounge/88965/40
I suspect the satnav and screen you could get on your phone would be superior to the FIAT one - in fact, with out 2017 Lounge you have to use your phone as the satnav (though it also streams music from there).
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Hi.
the long climbs on the M74 were fine so long as you were doing around 75 before hitting them, below 70 and the revs dropped, get into 4th and the car would then accelerate fine and you could then get back into 5th.
For rapid progress use the gears freely in the 1.2.
Indeed. But in direct comparison I would always take a TA over the 1.2 on the motorway - there's no contest - it's far more relaxing especially with two of us. The TA also achieves its best MPG (we have managed 58 on a 400 mile trip to Wigan and back (M62) on the motorway. Low 50s with two of us and luggage to and from Aberystwyth. Locally it drops to 50 - 52 in mixed driving. We have a standard 2wd version.
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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

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Given that the display isn't accurate, on my run to Cramlington it told me I was getting just over 62mpg on the run down and as I was running late on my return a figure of 54mpg, the average should have been 58 and on a tank to tank figure slightly above 54mpg average confirms it's inaccuracy.
My Fuelly figure of 46.3 compares to 50.1 on the display. So for accuracy I don't rely on the display.

It's each to their own between the two engines. You gain in overall consumption on the 1.2 and unless you drive the TA on a feather it wont equal it, then take into account the higher insurance and maintenance costs of the TA and also factor in the tried and tested technology and its robustness, the FIRE unit to me it has to come out tops.
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Having owned a 1.2 Panda and, now, a TA. I think the TA is great on the motorway and dual carriageway and faster roads. The 1.2 is much easier to drive around town and smoothly at lower speeds. My choice would be made based on where I do the majority of the driving. The TA does get people scratching their heads when you drive past though. It doesn't sound like any other modern car engine.
My 4x4 TA is now in Umbria on its ninth trip between here and Devon. It's really competent in most situations, and good on long runs - 80-85 all day - cameras permitting - with useful acceleration if traffic conditions require it. It also does about 44 mpg in these conditions, which is the most I get from it. I do very little traffic-heavy driving but Switzerland is one big jam this year and the very slow stop/start of a 40-minute holdup probably sees the worst of the TA, though it still copes. The return journey loaded with wine and olive oil really exploits the TA's torque up long main road climbs in sixth - where the 1.2 could be struggling and even my 100HP was not so strong.

In general I treat it like any petrol engine - avoid revs below about 2000 - and am very rarely conscious that it's a two cylinder. The low first gear may not be ideal in some conditions but it's a boon on the very steep white roads in central Italy, including the one to our village.
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Hi.
Given that the display isn't accurate, on my run to Cramlington it told me I was getting just over 62mpg on the run down and as I was running late on my return a figure of 54mpg, the average should have been 58 and on a tank to tank figure slightly above 54mpg average confirms it's inaccuracy.
My Fuelly figure of 46.3 compares to 50.1 on the display. So for accuracy I don't rely on the display.

It's each to their own between the two engines. You gain in overall consumption on the 1.2 and unless you drive the TA on a feather it wont equal it, then take into account the higher insurance and maintenance costs of the TA and also factor in the tried and tested technology and its robustness, the FIRE unit to me it has to come out tops.
I use fill to fill calculations. The trip computer usually shows 1 or 2 above my calculations. So it gives a 'feel' but I prefer to calculate using the actual volume used and the miles covered. I think you could beat these figures in the 1.2 - especially in town driving. I rarely got below 54mpg in my 169 1.2 and the CO2 rating was much higher (Lord knows how they work those numbers out!).
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Given that the display isn't accurate..

My Fuelly figure of 46.3 compares to 50.1 on the display. So for accuracy I don't rely on the display.
Your display error is pretty much in line with what I've found with mine. It's at least consistent in its optimism, so useful for comparing the same journey on different days and finding out what works, and what doesn't in the economy quest.

It's not a particularly aerodynamic car and fuel consumption starts to rise quite steeply at higher speeds. If you keep below 55mph on the motorway, on longer journeys (>40 miles) you can get well into the '70s on the trip computer; my best ever was 80.1 mpg over 106 miles. Doing the same trip with the headlights on generally knocks 3-4mpg off the figures; with the A/C on all the way, that same journey will fall into the low '60's. Not many petrol cars can beat these figures.

The TA is a different animal for a different driving style; if you're trying to squeeze the last drop of economy out of one on a regular basis, you've probably bought the wrong car, but in spirited driving, it'll leave a 1.2 in the weeds. At a more typical 70-75mph motorway cruise, I'd be surprised if thre were any real noticeable difference in economy between the two engines; but the 1.2 definitely has the potential for great economy if you drive with an egg under the gas pedal.
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