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and so it came to pass............
I'll post up info of the new motor in the Uno section when it is on my drive. Might be a few weeks yet though because of housing complications.

I'll be taking the Panda around the 'ring in a couple of months as part of a European trip I'm planning.
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I'll post up info of the new motor in the Uno section when it is on my drive. Might be a few weeks yet though because of housing complications.

I'll be taking the Panda around the 'ring in a couple of months as part of a European trip I'm planning.
Birmingham's lovely in the spring.
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I'd love to drive around the Bullring when it was empty!
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I love it too, I`m pretty sure most petrol heads adore your baby!

I wonder if anyone will build a 4x4 one....

I recon more will be built as 1.4 engines start getting more easily available. I`m still looking for an 8v 1.4 lump for my Uno, then that 1108 can go in my 750 Panda!
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

no point with a 4x4 as theres no centre diff so you'll end up will prop wind up.

once more older mk2s become available from scrappies then i'm sure it will be done alot
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

Also, you would have to be quite handy with gearboxes if you wanted to go over 20MPH to improve on the standard system.

I don't think supply of engines is a problem anymore. 1368cc 16v engines are used in lots of cars. It's the fuelling solutions that most people are scared of. Cento and Punto enthusiast tend to find megasquirting/ injection tech easier than your average Panda owner so more have done conversions into their cars, where it is actually trickier in some respects.

Link to 300 Stilo engine (identical to one I used) on eBay: eBay auction
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4x4 systems aint my strong point Craig! could say a, SJ410 centre diff be fitted?

A 1.4 lump with a 4x4 system would... in theory.. give you superb traction from take off.. in theory!

I`ve got no idea what your hard accelerations like as far as tractions concerned lewey, but surely 4wd with 2 quaifes would help? (another theory!)

And another theory is the ability to bias it to the rear via ratios to reduce understeer..

I`m good at my theories.. lack of money, time & room means I rarely get to do `practical`
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Thanks for that link lewey, I want to do an 8v conversion on the Uno (remember I wanted to keep the original look including the simple wiring, carb & dizzy)
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

Cornering traction is the biggest problem in reality. Mostly sorted with an LSD. You need to make a lot of power to be entertaining a 4x4 fast panda. As discussed, it is literally not possible to use Panda 4x4 running gear as it is not a high-speed system. You are basically talking about an entirely fabricated bespoke 4x4 system able to take decent power and have a quantity of LSDs. Sounds nice. Someone has done this in the form a Lancia Y10 with Delta Integrale running gear including 2 litre turbo engine. It's called the Yintegrale.

Lots of info can be found here. Click on "My Y10 Integrale" and use the not so obvious left and right arrows at the bottom of each page to scroll though - tonnes of pages and photos. If this doesn't put you off the idea, nothing will!

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Congratulations on what is possibly the most impressive Panda i've seen. I LOVE the idea of a Q-Car!!!
Was it difficult getting the Punto intrumentaion in?
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

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Congratulations on what is possibly the most impressive Panda i've seen. I LOVE the idea of a Q-Car!!!
Was it difficult getting the Punto intrumentaion in?
The instrumentation was easy to get in, in that I just took it out of the Punto bezel and put it in the dash. I still have a half-finished proper bezel/ valance panel in the garage that I don't seem to get round to doing.

It's the rest of the wiring so that it displays anything that'll kill you! The dashboard was a logical decision to include after I had done all the wiring for the ECUs anyway, but was not the main reason for using the Punto electronics.
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

If you've connected it to the electronics i'm guessing the trip computer won't work i.e MPG, time driving etc because you haven't got the buttons to operate it - same with the external temperature display?

I think your instruments are the best mod i've seen on here
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

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If you've connected it to the electronics i'm guessing the trip computer won't work i.e MPG, time driving etc because you haven't got the buttons to operate it - same with the external temperature display?

I think your instruments are the best mod i've seen on here
Cheers. The trip computer, MPG and speedo don't work as they require input from complex ABS sensors with the 1.4 16v ECUs. I would have integrated the ABS sensors but it proved practically impossible due to the multi-polar design of the (wheel) bearings used to trigger the sensors and the lack of technical knowledge from FIAT to have custom ones made, even if actually possible to do so. I use the digital SPA motorsport speedo you can see in the foreground instead and the speedo just lies dead. It records time between speeds or distance like 1/4 mile. It will be integrated into the dial set when I get round to it.
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

I want this! Must be so much fun to drive
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Re: Classic Panda 100HP Sleeper

I wish I had the mechanical knowledge and experience to do things like this!
Really impressed with this Panda and hats off to you for having the skill and vision to pull it off Lewey
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