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Technically LEDs in halogen holders are an MoT fail. My tester checked the H7s cut off, looked at it down the street for potential dazzle and gave it a pass. He then asked where he could get some of the same bulbs. He said they were better than many super bright halogen bulbs. Unfortunately it seems that's an unusual situation. Most are like the H4s I tried. Useless and dazzling. Saying that, most newer cars with OEM LEDs are far too bright on dipped beam. They are almost as dazzling as main beams from 20 years ago.
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The Mini has Factory Fitted LED headlights So there is no conventional bulb you can replace, I think you have to take half the car apart to get them out
Wonder what they will do with the new style LED matrix lights. Rears you can have a certain percentage of leds off before it becomes a fail as long the original function of the system is not impaired. So must provide a tail light, brake light must be brighter than that but not everything has to work. DRLs need to function as part of mot but does all of it need to function for example?

Seen quite a few Audis and VWs where I assume someone has messed with VAG com or whatever it it is, turning the LED drls to orange for American style running lights which then flash. At one point used to see a few Golf's where the led indicator on the rear door would flash alternately with the one on the boot lid rather than a continuous strip. But I suspect that's an electrical fault rather than anything you'd do on purpose.

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Technically LEDs in halogen holders are an MoT fail. My tester checked the H7s cut off, looked at it down the street for potential dazzle and gave it a pass. He then asked where he could get some of the same bulbs. He said they were better than many super bright halogen bulbs. Unfortunately it seems that's an unusual situation. Most are like the H4s I tried. Useless and dazzling. Saying that, most newer cars with OEM LEDs are far too bright on dipped beam. They are almost as dazzling as main beams from 20 years ago.
Their has been a communication recently where any led bulbs in halogen holders should be failed. Do rather hope it doesn't apply to sides as the standard w5w yellow bulbs in mine looked terrible and looked for ages to find a set of actually white leds.
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Wonder what they will do with the new style LED matrix lights. Rears you can have a certain percentage of leds off before it becomes a fail as long the original function of the system is not impaired. So must provide a tail light, brake light must be brighter than that but not everything has to work. DRLs need to function as part of mot but does all of it need to function for example?
I would Imagine there are multiple LEDS per chip or the whole matrix consists of many multiple LEDs on a single chip, and multiple lights for each individual light on the matrix so a certain amount of acceptable failure is built in. There may come a point where 10 year old BMWs are reaching a serious level of problems when the headlights are dying and itís going to cost £500 for some after market headlight replacement. Who knows?

Obviously in some cases they are already moving on from LEDs to ďLaserĒ lights which are as lasery as they sound, super bright with highly directed light that carries much further than most other lights
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The LED spots I put on the bike had a narrow pencil beam. I had them as dipped back up but actually got too much foreground light. It was like riding in a puddle of day light but looking into a black hole. I gave them a separate switch and found them very useful on dual carriageways as main beams. They gave a long range spots of light that could be aimed along my side of the road without dazzling incomers with scattered light. Perfect on right-hand curves, obviously no good on left handers (dazzle), but surprisingly ok on straights.

I'd have them on the Panda but there's nowhere useful to put them so they are now demoted to daylights in the fog light mounts.
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The LED spots I put on the bike had a narrow pencil beam. I had them as dipped back up but actually got too much foreground light. It was like riding in a puddle of day light but looking into a black hole. I gave them a separate switch and found them very useful on dual carriageways as main beams. They gave a long range spots of light that could be aimed along my side of the road without dazzling incomers with scattered light. Perfect on right-hand curves, obviously no good on left handers (dazzle), but surprisingly ok on straights.

I'd have them on the Panda but there's nowhere useful to put them so they are now demoted to daylights in the fog light mounts.
A friend of mine used to do a lot of rallying years ago. Two large driving lamps on the front. The left was angled to the right, and the right lamp angled left. This ensured no black hole in the middle, and also gave some light around corners. Obviously main beam only.

On the subject of main beams, it amazes me that so many people I meet when driver training have no idea that headlamps have two settings. They think that 'main beam' and 'headlamps' are the same thing, main beam being an alternative to sidelights. No wonder they're all afraid to drive in the dark.
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A friend of mine used to do a lot of rallying years ago. Two large driving lamps on the front. The left was angled to the right, and the right lamp angled left. This ensured no black hole in the middle, and also gave some light around corners. Obviously main beam only.

On the subject of main beams, it amazes me that so many people I meet when driver training have no idea that headlamps have two settings. They think that 'main beam' and 'headlamps' are the same thing, main beam being an alternative to sidelights. No wonder they're all afraid to drive in the dark.
My golf has automatic main beams which is surprisingly good, it occasionally thinks a road sign is a car or whatever and dips the main beam but you can override it if you want, itís however very easy to become complacent and when driving the Punto you either blind people forgetting to turn the main beams off or you drive into a hedge forgetting to turn them on and not being able to work out why you canít see. I guess people who never travel out of a town or city never need use them and with most cars having automatic headlights now, they probably donít know even how to turn the normal headlights on and off if they wanted
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My headlamp hates
(1) Drivers who bumble along unlit roads on dipped beam. There will be areas where it's reasonable to overtake but the black hole ahead gives no clue what's coming up. So you have to sit there while they squint into the dark.
(2) Drivers dipping their headlights as you overtake but long before you are past their mirrors so you cant use yours without dazzling the driver.
(3) Drivers who have not noticed that light the far side of that bend is probably another car so do get ready to dip those HIDs/LEDs/mega halogens. They only wake up when you blast with your main beams. What is that about?
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