i have a 1.4 sporting and i think it wants some oil because its done 6000 miles in 2 1/2 months, and its drunk most of what it had. i was gonna try some castrol edge 0W30 stuff, but i dunno if thats over the top or whether its ok. im a bit of a car n00b.

use what it says in the book that come with the car,

the car came with a book?

I take it you didnt get an owners manual then / service guide /warenty book.. ask your dealer for them as you wont have a book to get stamped at service time..

my hand book says for Petrol engines:

Synthetic Based oils GRADE 5W-40 Fiat 9.55535-m2Qualification

original oil:
Selenia K

Oil for Diesel Engines:
Synthetic Based oils GRADE 5W-40 Fiat 9.55535-N2Qualification

original oil:
Selenia WR

and in the foot notes..

"If using non original SAE 5-W-40 Products, Oils with a minimum ACEA A3 Specifications por petrol Engines and ACEA B4 specifications for diesel engines are admitted; In this event top engine proformance is not guaranteed.

Use of products with low-quality properties than ACEA A3 and ACEA B4 could cause damages to the engine that are not covered by teh warenty"

hope thats of some use

where can i get the selenia stuff from then?

grandemike said:

where can i get the selenia stuff from then?

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fiat or www.shop4parts.co.uk

I bought some of the Selenia oil from my FIAT garage, but at £14 per litre I don't really want to be limited to that make.

I cannot believe that another branded oil, that conforms to the specification laid down in the handbook, would do any harm to my engine, nor would it not give me full performance. T, sorry, :worship: sir T, what do you reckon?

On the same topic, do I need fully synthetic, partially synthetic or just 'normal' oil?

Mine's a GP Mjet 90 1.3, Jan 2007.

The oil marker on my dipstick is halfway between min and max (no round thing on mine) so ideally I'd like to top it up a bit, but the 1 litre bottle I bought I keep for 'emergencies' in the boot, hence the need for a cheaper, quality brand which I can buy in 5 litre bottles!

Anybody have any comments to make (apart from me being a skinflint!)?

Aresby said:

On the same topic, do I need fully synthetic, partially synthetic or just 'normal' oil?
Mine's a GP Mjet 90 1.3, Jan 2007.
Anybody have any comments to make (apart from me being a skinflint!)?

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Aresby, I looked into this for my 1.3 Multijet, I posted this a while back on the Panda forum.

Thread reference with relevant links,

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-new/98562-panda-multijet-oil-5w-40-10w-40-a.html?p=1065452

oilrag said:

Aresby, I looked into this for my 1.3 Multijet, I posted this a while back on the Panda forum.

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Thanks, oilrag I read that with interest.

Only trouble is, if you buy Mobil 1 (5W-40) in this country, it's as expensive as the Selenia that FIAT push!

Maybe I'll look around for 5W-40 oil that matches the ACEA B4 spec and 229.1/229.3 too if possible.

I still can't work out if it's supposed to be synthetic or not though. I gather that synthetic lasts longer (esp. with our GP 18,000 mile service intervals, this is important). In days of yore (1980's), when I used to do my own oil changes, it felt like water after 10,000 miles. No lubrication left to speak of at all.

not sure if this is relevent but on the break down prices on my GP's last service the print out for the cost and qty of oil was for shell Heliex motor oil

Aresby said:

I cannot believe that another branded oil, that conforms to the specification laid down in the handbook, would do any harm to my engine, nor would it not give me full performance. T, sorry, :worship: sir T, what do you reckon?

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Your car so put what you want in it (vodka/water/oil etc) however if the unfortunate event occured with a warranty claim it is often checked,I would use recommended or at least equivalent specification oil.....just dont use that £2.99 gallon recycled stuff

Aresby said:

Maybe I'll look around for 5W-40 oil that matches the ACEA B4 spec and 229.1/229.3 too if possible.
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I have just used the last of the Mobil 1, 5w40 I bought in France 2 years ago.
That oil met MB229.3 ( coincidentally to the required ACEA B4)

Mobil 1, *0w40* now on sale in the UK meets MB229.*5*

Problem in using that while in warranty is that 0w40 is not the viscosity in the book. Although that too is now on sale in Calais and I will be bringing a couple of cans home this summer for the years oil changes.

I think a full synthetic is going to be a lot better for the turbo bearings.....

IMHO if its to ACEA B4 and 5w40 its ok. Really it has to be a full synthetic to get the 5w40 grade....... So theres no option other than full synthetic really (IMHO) as thats the viscosity in the handbook for the multijet.
Regards

Petrol - Millers XFS. 5W40. Exceeds API SL, ACEA A3,B3, VAG 502.00/505.00 Porsche and BMW requirement
Diesel - Millers XFD. 5W40. Exceeds API CH4, ACEA B3, Mercedes-Benz 228.3
VAG 505.00

Hellcat said:

Petrol - Millers XFS. 5W40. Exceeds API SL, ACEA A3,B3, VAG 502.00/505.00 Porsche and BMW requirement
Diesel - Millers XFD. 5W40. Exceeds API CH4, ACEA B3, Mercedes-Benz 228.3
VAG 505.00

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I`m always cautious of claims that do not actually *meet* a necessary ( handbook) spec such as ACEA B4.

Regards

I swear by Mobil 1, allways have done in both Petrol an diesel cars.

I have found Belgium is the cheapest pace to buy it BTW

thing is under warrenty you are screwed and have stick with manufacturer specs in case the worse happens

( there again i have only ever one engine ever let go on me and that was my 3.2 V6 during development and it peaked at 10,200rpm and only failed after one of the two fuel pumps gave up the ghost)

oilrag said:

I`m always cautious of claims that do not actually *meet* a necessary ( handbook) spec such as ACEA B4.

Regards

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His is a petrol though.. The XFS exceeds the Spec required for his engine.

Hellcat said:

His is a petrol though.. The XFS exceeds the Spec required for his engine.

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Sorry

oilrag said:

Sorry

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You're right about the diesel though. B4... Not seen that on many oils.

grandemike said:

i have a 1.4 sporting and i think it wants some oil because its done 6000 miles in 2 1/2 months, and its drunk most of what it had. i was gonna try some castrol edge 0W30 stuff, but i dunno if thats over the top or whether its ok. im a bit of a car n00b.

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If you want the car to last then use the best oil you can buy, look on the sepcifications for mercedes benz 229.5 (previous grades have been 229.3 and 229.1) which are high quality synthetic oils that stay in shape. I use Mobil 1 and I really rate it.