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I'd honestly just change the whole throttle body, not like they are that expensive or hard to come by these days!
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Yeah but cash is short so have no option really
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Yeah you do, find a scrapyard, open your tool box and see what falls inside it. You might get lucky :lol:

From experience, old icv's on them don't really work properly again once they've been messed with. The 2 cheap options are to leave it be in the TB but soak it in wd40 and wiggle very gently back and forward with a small screwdriver whilst still blasting it with WD, or change the throttle body for another 2nd hand one. They don't fail much tbh so i'd just chance another from a scrappy.

When you get £'s, i recommend buying a vag com obd adapter, a 3 pin fiat/alfa to vag com adapter and downloading IAW scan. You'll then be able to monitor what the sensors are all doing and what the icv is doing etc.
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Option 1 is on the cards atm no Scrappy's round me have a cinquecento sporting in atm or a sei so gubbed atm basically if your option docent work then wait till I get cash and buy a new tb got offered a new one with manifold posted for 35 quid lol
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Well little update

Not much has happened to the car except I stripped the throttle body from the manifold and soaked the icv yet to refit.

Going back to dream land and mad ideas.
My plan is to buy a cheap 1.4 tjet car and basically transfer that into the cinquecento so I'm starting with a 120bhp engine and work up from there the only issue is a. Finding a cheap car b. It's going to be an arse of a job but so worth it haha

Ps I still know I'm mad haha
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The t-jet fits....but doesn't. A lot of the turbo architecture won't clear the slam panel/rad/fan assembly. It is workable though.

The big headache is electrically, it's not a case of getting a t-jet car, slapping in the engine and box, making it fit at the front, plugging in the ecu and away you go like a p60 conversion or even a conversion to mpi. Unless you're planning to convert the interior to run CANBUS, set up fly by wire throttle etc, then the standard stuff is never going to work. The only realistic route is a standalone ecu like Megasquirt and mapping it. There's very little benefit there from buying a whole t-jet car unless you can get it cheaper than an engine. There's very little you'll be able to use.
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I can pick up a tjet car for around 2k the same as a bare low mileage engine so it's more cost effective to buy a car
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That's a not bad find actually lol
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Well I got bored yesterday and decided to start wet sanding the cinquecento you will have to wait to see the finished product though
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Well I got pissed off at shark bait refusing to start and hold an idle so I took the sandpaper and machine to him and we'll the results speak for them selves

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Well all has being quite on the cinque front but got some stuff done bought a new exhaust from Germany for a whopping 47.50 posted for a complete mani back system so that has at least sorted the noise issue the next problem I have discovered is that both engine mounts and the gearbox mount is destroyed so they need replaced asap next thing is I have a backfire issue when left to idle but I believe that I just need to tighten up the throttle cable to solve the issue and last but not least I believe the water pump seal gave up on its 1 mile journey along the back road it lives so a new water pump will need to be sourced but it's saving grace to everything is that it starts first turn of the key everytime so I can't complain too much
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For the record, The front engine/gearbox mount for a Cinq is often majorly, majorly difficult to come by and expensive (iirc £60 for that mount on its own), it's a totally different design to the sei (one of the few things that is). Mine was very tired and when i tried to take it off (to stiffen with tiger seal anyway), all the bolts snapped. Ended up having to just refurb the old mount with the aid of a dremel, paint, new bolts and tiger seal.

If you're going for all new mounts, i recommend firing up google translate and going on to Unto.pl. Postage is of course the big barrier BUT if you're ordering a few things, they tend to work out a lot cheaper because the cost of the items themselves are so much cheaper. For example i ordered a lot of things i couldn't get in the UK for the conversion, like new hoses, sensors, magnetti marelli leads and the likes and the entire order plus postage came in at £10 less than the cheapest i could get a decent aftermarket set of leads in the UK.

From memory of the translate, any sort of connector is translated as a tendon, and mounts are translated as pillows :lol: :laugh:
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Hahaha thanks for the info as usual Mr cento you should pop down and have a look at the car I'm sure you will find my issues straight away
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Well today I did some more work on sharkbait which included changing the front brakes of course it was all fun and games first off I couldn't get the locking wheel nut off once that was free I couldn't get the caliper pin out to flip the caliper up then I couldn't remove the caliper carrier so 1 large hammer later lots of swearing cuts and monster energy later I have 1 side done the other side will need to wait till I can get the locking wheel nut key loose from the locking wheel nut but all in a days work of fixing a fiat :lol: :lol:

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