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I have seen that before, but how do we know its a 20v and not a 16v though ???

2xHLX owner,3xHGT, (then the darkside) 1xCoupe20vt now the proud owner of a Black Coupe20vt LE!
 
I was going with the fact it has HGT arches, to allow a little more room for the 20vt.
Although I suppose they could of just done what I did lol.

Dan

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Skate2create & Psykee-Lea
 
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no it was probably over a year ago now, a hungarian guy i sold my 16vt c&b cams to sent me the link as i told him i had been suggested to use a dedra but he thought it woudlnt work with teh 20vt block, but then he found the bravo on ebay.

some 20vt coupe owners have used dedra box's as they have a longer top end i think i read once?

my brava is on my drive minus lots of bits! start it every coupl eofweeks, still love the pttssh lol, but just breaking everything off it that means it can still move and engine run then will sell it on ebay as a running engine that can be heard seen driven etc, hopefully should sell ok compared to engine on there that you have no idea about.
 
Fairly sure there arent any 20vt 4x4s, there would be more about if so, there are poeple that spend a fortune on the coupe forum and i dont know any that exist, if it did they would have done it. Hell if i could do it for £1k it would be done.

Paul R

2xHLX owner,3xHGT, (then the darkside) 1xCoupe20vt now the proud owner of a Black Coupe20vt LE!
 
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a guy here very confident the dedra rear axle bolts straight on.

the problem is lack of dedra integrale's in this country, the only ones here still get a good price because of the rarity!

http://www.puntosports.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=21584

the only thing i can find from my conversation with the hungarian is me quoting the fact that it had a 20vt not a 16 or 8

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From: Dorian Beli [[email protected]]
Sent: 01 February 2005 11:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: ignition





Well, actually the dedra has 165hp engine not 185 (that engine has stronger head gaskets, and maybe pistons).



This is the reason I'm not thinking anymore about putting this engine to a brava. I'll just put a turbo on it, with that modest boost, try to kéép all costs down. And collecting money for an Audi A4 1.8T quattro (it's going to take 1,5-2 years as it looks now). That engine can be tuned up to 300 bhp with no internal mods! And still, there is max. torque from 1950rpm!!

Audi also has the best 4*4 in the world the quattro. So I'll just go for that...



4*4 surely kicks when cornering!



D.



-------Original Message-------



From: Allan Wall

Date: 02/01/05 12:13:01

To: 'Dorian Beli'

Subject: RE: ignition



It says il motore e quello della fiat cupe 2000 turbo 5 cilindri 20v ???? or do you mean if I swapped?

The place in the uk that chipped mine, with an uprated fuel pump do 8v integrale from 185bhp to 230! And they seemed confident they could do similar with dedra engine, with the uprated fuel pump I have and the fuel pressure put up?

But that's why I would like to buy a whole dedra first, as will be able to drive and see how quick it is, and if not what I want I could just sell it in uk as collectors car, as I say, I have only ever seen 2 for sale in uk now, and both were 3000 pounds or more!

It may not be as quick in a straight line, but 4x4 would be lots of fun round the corners I'd hope!
 
you can bolt all of the 4x4 transmission to the coupe/bravo yes, but not the 20vt to that 4x4 system... you need a 4pot for that not a 5pot :(

there are 16vt 4x4 coupes and bravos but not 20vts, the engine is too long things like transfer boxs etc arent in the right place :(

Honest

2xHLX owner,3xHGT, (then the darkside) 1xCoupe20vt now the proud owner of a Black Coupe20vt LE!
 
serious??? dont suppose you have a link?

Paul

2xHLX owner,3xHGT, (then the darkside) 1xCoupe20vt now the proud owner of a Black Coupe20vt LE!
 
@ j

no thats not me mines yellow! look at my pics under 'my bravo (clean 4 once)' havent got a pic on that site yet!

didnt realise i started sumthin! :)

guess its a question of money, isnt it.
how much are you gona spend on it, how much time etc.

what other engines does anyone think will fit in the hgt? alfa 2.5/3.0/3.2v6?
 
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i have bumped up my post about it!

no longer on ebay of course though
 
o and the 2.4 stilo engine! :)

looked at the other post just shows noithing is impossible!
 
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Paul, i thought u were old skool boo lol, thi smust of been while you were away or something!

i can see what you are saying about the position of gearbox etc being different, but as everyone on her eknows now the 20vt and 16vt engines/boxes allfit it he bravo, i'm sure i saw someone had used the dedra box on the 20vt coupe, at worst some bespoke driveshafts?
 
Must have been away or something, lol,, i am old skool boo :)

I seem to be proven wrong, would have been nice to read it but it is over a year old now.

Dam,,, part of me is glad that i am wrong and part of me wishes i was right, because now i am going to get up 4x4ing it :(

searched ebay for a degra and no luck, in the whole of europe no 4x4s out there :(

i know the boxes themselves fit but it was the fact that the transfer box would be too far off centre, either way it seems to be "doable"

:( i feel ££££££ leaving my pocket soon :(

2xHLX owner,3xHGT, (then the darkside) 1xCoupe20vt now the proud owner of a Black Coupe20vt LE!
 
just checking, you do know that 16v and 20v are both 2l, just because in the other thread it says he has fitted a 2000 which could be either?

2xHLX owner,3xHGT, (then the darkside) 1xCoupe20vt now the proud owner of a Black Coupe20vt LE!
 
just remembered, theres a panda 4x4 (new and old) i wonder if any of that could be useful, even just to make it RWD?! :)
 
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sorry paul,

in my emails to my hungarian friend i have this quote :

It says il motore e quello della fiat cupe 2000 turbo 5 cilindri 20v

as he didnt read it properly and argued with me as to whether it was 20vt!

wishi'd saved some pictures now, although you couldnt tel it was 4x4 obviously


i had a quick look and only found one

http://www.autoscout24.de/home/index/detail.asp?id=1aoudfixh3w&TFCA=45820.13

but look slike a carlos sainz special edition hence the bigger price tag, but still, coupld of grand? you'd have panels and lights to sell and an 8v turbo engine?
 
FYI Carl, an alfa 3L V6 would go into a bravo ;)

I was told so by a certain somone on here a while back ;)

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