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DRL (Daytime running lights

Hello there, was looking at fitting Daytime running lights to my 2006 Croma, was wondering if anyone else had done this, I have the round fog lights on mine so was thinking the DRL's would go above/below these. Anyway any ideas or if you have fitted these please let me know, or upload photo's Thanks.
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Re: DRL (Daytime running lights

A set of Ring BRL0397's should fit easily if you can find a location and wiring is a 5 min job
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Hi, I fitted a more permanent set up, because I wanted an OEM look. It involved drilling the bumper, but I think it was worth it.
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halilson, that is a brave move. Not sure I am that brave.
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Hi halison,
That looks like quite a neat job!

Did you fit an additional switch anywhere?
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Re: DRL (Daytime running lights

I've never found fog lights to be useful, so have fitted round DRLs in place of the foglights on my 06 Panda. These are Ring BRL0402. Very few people will realise they are not original.

They are about 75mm diameter, so fit with a tiny gap around them in the Panda fogholes. The Panda mountings in the bumper have a flat surface below the lamp. I cut a piece of 12mm thick plywood to fit onto this and the DRLs mounted onto this.

These cost about 70, but an be found a bit cheaper if you search the web. I think I got mine from Amazon. Beware non E marked lamps.
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Got any pics of the setup of out interest @portland_bill

Good to hear of someone else using proper DRLs and not crappy none 'E' marked styling lights
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Got a rock through one foglight. Never found foglights much use, but didn't wish to run around with a broken one.
As I was planning and fitting them, I intended to take pics and write it up to load on here. Then time pressed and weather deteriorated so I just fitted them. I do feel guilty, so may one day remove one to write the guide as I should have done.
The wiring is fairly simple, one earth, one permanent live direct from battery and a signal from the sidelight. They appear to have some electronics inside that measures battery voltage, so they know when the engine is running. Then when sidelights are illuminated, they dim. I wanted to be able to have them on with side and tail lights, so attached the signal wire to the dipped beam. As the Panda has a single bulb, they dim on dipped beam and go bright again on main beam, Quite comical, but should not be an issue.
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Got a rock through one foglight. Never found foglights much use, but didn't wish to run around with a broken one.
As I was planning and fitting them, I intended to take pics and write it up to load on here. Then time pressed and weather deteriorated so I just fitted them. I do feel guilty, so may one day remove one to write the guide as I should have done.
The wiring is fairly simple, one earth, one permanent live direct from battery and a signal from the sidelight. They appear to have some electronics inside that measures battery voltage, so they know when the engine is running. Then when sidelights are illuminated, they dim. I wanted to be able to have them on with side and tail lights, so attached the signal wire to the dipped beam. As the Panda has a single bulb, they dim on dipped beam and go bright again on main beam, Quite comical, but should not be an issue.
Some pics attached. Camera on phone, attached to rubbish photographer!
Gap around lamp sealed with clear building sealant, keeps the muck out from inside the bumper.
Yes the BRL0397's on dads Eleganza do the whole on off thing when main beam is turned on and off etc

Adds a tad little more lighting Sighly lower down. I have to admit I'm impressed with those. Look really well done
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Hi halison,
That looks like quite a neat job!

Did you fit an additional switch anywhere?
Thanks Brian. They are fully automatic (and 'E' approved MEP)
They came with a relay that turns them on with the ignition and switches them off when the side lights are turned on. I've been running them for about a year now and I am very happy with them. I have also replaced my fog lights with LED ones when one of mine cracked and started to go rusty.
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Thanks Brian. They are fully automatic (and 'E' approved MEP)
They came with a relay that turns them on with the ignition and switches them off when the side lights are turned on. I've been running them for about a year now and I am very happy with them. I have also replaced my fog lights with LED ones when one of mine cracked and started to go rusty.
Thanks, sounds like quite a good solution. Like everyone else I've found the fogs (for the short while that I've had them connected) to be not much use so I might try doing something with them. Sounds like we might be heading towards a "pimp my Croma" thread

I've been interested in what could be done re lights since my Mum bought a Mazda Bongo which has pretty poor headlamps and after fitting auxillary driving lights to it it's much better now on full beam. Doesn't help the Bongo's dipped beam though. Can DRL's be used to supplement dipped beams or do they have to extinguish?
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BrianMcL I think once any other light is turned on then the DRL's will go off. However I guess if you dont connect the wire to the exsisting lights then they will stay on. This could be illegal, I dont know ??
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To comply with the current law, the lights must be E marked and comply to ECE 87. They must be mounted within specific tolerances and must switch off or dim when the normal lights are turned on.
As long as they are used and mounted correctly, you can get away with non 'E' marked items, but from my experience, they don't emit enough light to be effective in daylight.
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Thanks again for another clear explanation. Sadly it doesn't sound like they'll provide a solution to the Bongo headlight problem but they do make the front end of a Croma look smart.
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Sadly it doesn't sound like they'll provide a solution to the Bongo headlight problem
Have you tried Osram Nightbeaker Plus bulbs? They are about the best standard fitment bulb you can buy.
The other option to try (ready for the outcry) is an HID conversion. If you go for a 35w 6000k kit and have the alignment set up properly, the Bongo should be ok because it has a relatively small reflector, so they shouldn't dazzle oncoming cars. A kit is about 20 on eBay.
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