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Old 09-11-2014   #91
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Re: DPF clogged, regen failed maybe?

Well the way Euro 6 is going and the way the UK and possibly other countries are kicking back against diesel engines then I'm strongly thinking of reverting to petrol engines. I know I'll loose some caravan towing grunt but I've towed my caravan with a Tempra 1.8ie, Tipo 1.6ie, Punto HGT, Stilo 2.4 (Abarth) and currently my Croma 150.

All of the above vehicles have not disappointed me when I balance their performance and my expectations. With the current 1.4 turbo engines this is where I'll probably end up going next. Petrol / spark plugs is also more in my comfort domain when things go wrong. No swirl valves, no DPF, no potential pollution charges, no more expensive fuel....etc .....etc
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Petrol / spark plugs is also more in my comfort domain when things go wrong. No swirl valves, no DPF, no potential pollution charges, no more expensive fuel....etc .....etc
some modern petrol engines like the 1.4 grande starjet do have flaps



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[QUOTE=dave;3557824]some modern petrol engines like the 1.4 grande starjet do have flaps

Oh sigh ....... why oh why

Well I guess a sliding vane is better than four twiddly flaps and petrol engines don't eat their own oil laden soot.

Please don't tell me the Multiair also has swirl valves/vanes.
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not sure what the multiair has but a friends 14 year old 1.4 petrol skoda has an egr
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Petrol EGR is quite common I believe, even on old cars. The big difference is lack of contaminants to get caked on and clog up the workings.
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People some how thing the modern petrol engine is the saviour of internal combustion engines.My backside.
Please inform my wife of this as her 500 abarth is now into its 5th week of being of the road due to an engine fault.Its in a fiat main agent too.
I truely would love to see a 1.4 turbo attempting to tow a van.Ford reckon their 1.25 turbo is up to it.aha ha ha.
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No engine is perfect and yes some develop odd fault. Just because it is in a main dealer doesn't mean they know what they are doing.

As for a 1.4 Turbo towing 1000kg slim line (2m wide) aero van then I don't see why there should be an issue because on paper the low end torque and power of this engine is way better than a Tip0 1.6ie (K reg) single point injection petrol engine which served me well.

Of course, maybe the Fiat 1.4 Turbo engine (multiair or not) is just a *rap engine and all new FPT engines are just the pits when compare to the old venerable single and twin cam engines that lacked all this variable timing etc. etc. stuff.
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Totally agree,they dont know what their doing at all.Came back tonight got a mile down the road and fault reappears.
But getting back to topic this is our 3rd new 500,previous 2 were 1.2 petrols, absolutely gutless and also poor on ecomomy.Now the 3rd car which is an Abarth in my opinion is also gutless up to the point were the turbocharger comes in.
I accept most of this is down to the mapping of the engine and fiat are one of the worse ive seen,very conservative on power outputs probably for warranty reasons.
Like i said for towing in my opinon they would be hopeless,the delievery is totally incorrect and wether its 1000lbs or not think of the drag factor.
Very interesting report on watchdog this week regarding the latest 1.2 petrol 500.
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On the towing front , anyone who has ever towed a caravan knows there is no substitute for HP and decent kerbweight.
The modern day trend is to lower the CC of the diesel engine ( ie Kia Sportage 1.7 ECO ) to probably lower the car tax payable and to save the planet . This has resulted in the caravan makers finding more and more ways to reduce the weight of the vans to accomodate the lack of pulling power of the available towcars.
I can only see that this will result in more accidents as the lighter the van the more effect the incorrect loading and weight distribution has on stability. The towing of anything bigger than a trailer-tent with any "small engined" car fills me with dread.
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Thankfully I two an Eriba Triton 430GT. Higher weight than traditional "wobbly box" construction due to it's all tubular steel body contruction clad in aluminium BUT is very aero dynamic with fall less drag than other caravans.

I've commented before on the lack of towing vehicles in the current vehicle range. Even more annoying is that there is no way you can personally find out how good or bad a car at towing is before you purchase one is because no manufacturer to my knowledge makes test vehicles fitted with tow bars available to the dealer chain for customers to try. I'd be happy to drive 100+ mile round trip to a dealer to hitch up to their demonstrator and take the proposed combination for a reasonably long test drive. Sadly this is not possible.

Instead one has to rely on other sources (like Tow Car of The Year) reports and these tend to be shootouts with variable and mixed personal testers opinions thrown in for good measure so you still never really know.

Aha! I'll buy one of these http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tAgri_G210.jpg
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Hi S130- I tried it on with our local Ssangyong dealer in Sheffield when I booked a test drive in a Korando . It was a 4x4 EX with a towbar fitted. When the salesman had come round after fainting at my request to bring my caravan to the dealer to "test the claims" of it being "Towcar of the Year" he said they weren`t insured to hook a van up!!. He again turned a pale grey when I said I was and I would be prepared to take the paint off the new towball so it didnt bugger up my caravan Alco Hitch.
I consider myself very lucky to have found a Korando that suits my needs for towing and will give me scope to take on a heavier van later if one takes our fancy, and gives me what I want out of solo running . It has truly lived up to its tow car reputation. If you have a dealer near you I can fully recommend that you take a test drive- but take some smelling salts wirth you
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