My well used cinq recently failed its MOT on some welding and a few other things. I really can't bring myself to scrap it. After a few hours in the workshop i uncovered some big holes, are these common places?

Behind both lights, boot floor and near rear suspension mount (failed on this).

Also a pic of car in workshop looking sorry for itself!

All going well it will be welded up soon, just not sure if to do a slight resto or a full one including respray? Any advice?

Thanks

Nath

bad times hope you fix it quickly my friend

it looks like a water catch area so im going to say yes

Yep, they're the usual places. You'll probably find the outer wheelarch has gone at the very back, too.

That's no toooo severe..

Hope you can find someone to weld the beast up.. :thumbs:


Ralf S.

Thanks for the replies. Made some progress, all rear suspension is off except for rear cross member which i will do tomorrow also got fuel tank out ready for welding hopefully next week.

No rear issues so far just hope rot isn't any worse, can anyone recommend any good paint for suspension?

Thanks

nath

Powdercoating is probably the best treatment. (Really the only treatment for the springs themselves.) Otherwise take a peek through the FROST catalogue, although the American stuff may work out more expensive than powder coating.

The standard(ish) and marginally cheaper approach is to abrade most of the rust off, use some kind of phosphoric acid treatment (you can buy phosphoric acid on eBay from industrial chemists) to passivate what's left, paint with high zinc primer, cover with something like hammerite smoothcoat.

As with all processes, it's the prep that determines the finish and how long it'll last. Given the sheer booring work involved, powder coating makes an aweful lot of sense.

Thanks for the help, gonna look at powder coating, is it wrong that I'm excited about getting them powder coated?

Got the rear cross member off today and rot is worse than thought but hopefully repairable. Will post pics up later.

Thanks

Nath

Blasting (the pre-prep before powder coating) should reveal how bad the cross member is. But there are plenty of younger (all Sei ones are the same except maybe the van) ones out there.

bean said:

Thanks for the replies. Made some progress, all rear suspension is off except for rear cross member which i will do tomorrow also got fuel tank out ready for welding hopefully next week.

No rear issues so far just hope rot isn't any worse, can anyone recommend any good paint for suspension?

Thanks

nath

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I have used this ( http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-r.../por15-black-rust-prevention-paint-473ml.html ) on both my cars. When dry it's hard unlike Hamerite.

It's a bit of a bugger to get the lid off the tin so if you get some, Transfer it to a preserve glass jar.

Right, with the cross member off yo can see the full extent of the damage. I was able to push this section out with ease and there is a slight crack running underneath so i think more will come off easily.

Tomorrow i will look at how likely it is to be welded up or calling it a day and scrapping it! :-(

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Nath

The welding isn't so much the issue as the fabrication of the part. Still it's do-able. Rest of the car looks nice, so I'd be inclined to. Points to the importance of cavity wax, doesn't it?

Is the car in the local church hall?

fingers99 said:

The welding isn't so much the issue as the fabrication of the part. Still it's do-able. Rest of the car looks nice, so I'd be inclined to. Points to the importance of cavity wax, doesn't it?

Is the car in the local church hall?

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The car is at the workshop i teach at in a secondary school. The kids have been helping me pull it apart!

Gonna cut rus out tomorrow, making metal to go in shouldn't be a problem as i have a metal work room too!

It's nice to hear someone saying to keep it!

Thanks

yeh keep it.... its not that bad at all.

as fingers said.... cavity wax would of prevented this!

Will get it cavity waxed when it's finished! Got a small done amount today. Ground down the worst of the welding and found that the pass inner arch is crumbling away!!

Will pit up pics later, anyone know where I can get pattern replacement 'arches? Don't fancy trying to make one!

Thanks

Nath

Try Fluffy the Impaler (Big Mick at Eurocarcare in Derby -- a Google will find).

Thanks, I will have a look!

tbh.. thats not that bad. ok given it is an MOT failure.. but its not hard to patch up. if you are OK at welding.

my first car was bad.. i bought a corsa 1.5 diesel from ebay and it was really rusty. i spend 10 months fixing it up (while learning to drive) only to have £4k insurance quotes thrown at me. so i sold it.
have a look at the project thread here:
http://www.allcorsa.co.uk/forums/sho...ans-35123.html

man, wish i had that engine in the car i have now!.. and 4 wheel drive >_<

Phoned around today locally and can't find any replacement inner arches yet, will call Fluffy on Monday. Here's a couple of pics of the crumbling arch and how the worst of the rust looks after abit of grinding. Still got to cut it out ready for new metal to be welded in.

I don't need this car on the road for a while as I have a daily driver so I going to take my time and try and get it fixed up good for many more years of driving, just not sure how far to go with the resto?

Thanks

Of course, the other source of panels is ye scrappy. The rear arches are in two sections -- the inner section is identical, I think, to the Sei one, while the outer is different, but a Sei one would probably be a significant head start. The panels are worth bugger all to the scrappy -- they're light, but they'll charge you for getting them off with the gas axe.

Yeah good point, have seen a few sei's around so will contact them next week.

Thanks

Nath