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deonholt

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Good morning everyone.

Thank you for all your help with regards to the ABS and related lights don't going off.

Ran diagnostics and inspection this morning.
Diagnostics faulted ABS sensor left-front. It turned out that the CV-joint was replaced with another one without the sensor ring.

Can anyone please point me to a place where I can get pricing from and have it couriered to South Africa?
Since I am very new to Fiat, I don't want to order and then it does not have the sensor ring. I found some on e-bay but is doesn't show a picture of the CV WITH the sensor ring.

Thank you so much.
 
Fiat

Nuova Bravo (2007-2009), 1.4l, petrol


RING

Part Number: 55 236 021




Fiat part number is 55236021

In Europe the fiat price is around 8 euros,
I think your best option in South Africa will be a Fiat dealer spares department.
 
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varesecrazy said:
Thanks both (y)

Not knowing the details of the car..
I was reluctant to quote part numbers ;)
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Me too,

But from his first thread -

Good day everyone. Greetings from South Africa.

I bought a 2008 Bravo 1.4 T-Jet for my son yesterday. The car drives very nice.

I wasn't going to look it up but your link and mention of ring possibly being separate got me interested.

Cheers

Jack

Ps I just hope that the fool who put a new cv joint on without an abs ring used the correct cv joint that a replacement and ring will fit onto.
 
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Thank you all very much for your thorough replies.

Maybe the mechanic to whom I took the car, saw that I don't know a lot about Fiats and/or ABS and sensors. The mechanic did say that the car is mechanically good and that my son can drive it like that. He studies at a town about 440km from me and leaving tomorrow.
Will do my research in the mean time and have it done when he visits again.

One thing I discovered, is that I don't know exactly what to search for when needing something. Today I searched for an example picture of the oil filter for this car and could not find any.
When looking for videos and so on, what do I use in my search term for the car?
I have it as: 2008 Fiat Bravo 1.4 T-Jet. As for the filter, I did not know adding the T-Jet is critical.

Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.
Regards,
 
I didn't know there was bravos with Abs ring. I thought they all had them built in the wheel bearing. At least it is like that on mine 1.9 multijet. And when I search on auto doc etc the 1.4 t - jet also have the magnetic sensor in the whell bearing.

jackwhoo said:
Fiat

Nuova Bravo (2007-2009), 1.4l, petrol


RING

Part Number: 55 236 021




Fiat part number is 55236021

In Europe the fiat price is around 8 euros,
I think your best option in South Africa will be a Fiat dealer spares department.
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Thomaz27 said:
I didn't know there was bravos with Abs ring. I thought they all had them built in the wheel bearing. At least it is like that on mine 1.9 multijet. And when I search on auto doc etc the 1.4 t - jet also have the magnetic sensor in the whell bearing.
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The parts listing shows a ring, and we are assuming it is the sensor. The drawing is not good on detail.

From the initial post, we are also assuming that the OP has got a sensor ring on the other side, which would suggest it needs one on both sides.

If it is in the wheel bearing, the sensor itself would be different, needing to sense off the bearing, not a ring.
deonholt these points may need clarifying before proceeding.
Check the other side, confirm the presence of a ring on the CV joint. (You've probably already done this, but it would be nice if you could reassure us, thanks.)
If there is a ring on the CV, the part number above looks like what you need.
If there's no ring on the CV, you'll see the sensor is looking at the bearing inner face, which has a reluctor ring built into the seal. If this is the case, it is likely that when the CV was changed, the bearing was too, and is in the wrong way around, so the reluctor is now facing outwards towards the wheel, and needs removing and turning around.
 
The abs sensor itself goes down a litele hole in the hub reaching down to the wheel bearing. I know this because I changed these wheel bearings last year.

I haven't looked at the parts suggested in the thread, but is there a chance that they are the clamps for the cv-boot?
portland_bill said:
The parts listing shows a ring, and we are assuming it is the sensor. The drawing is not good on detail.

From the initial post, we are also assuming that the OP has got a sensor ring on the other side, which would suggest it needs one on both sides.

If it is in the wheel bearing, the sensor itself would be different, needing to sense off the bearing, not a ring.

deonholt these points may need clarifying before proceeding.
Check the other side, confirm the presence of a ring on the CV joint. (You've probably already done this, but it would be nice if you could reassure us, thanks.)
If there is a ring on the CV, the part number above looks like what you need.
If there's no ring on the CV, you'll see the sensor is looking at the bearing inner face, which has a reluctor ring built into the seal. If this is the case, it is likely that when the CV was changed, the bearing was too, and is in the wrong way around, so the reluctor is now facing outwards towards the wheel, and needs removing and turning around.
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Thomaz27 said:
The abs sensor itself goes down a litele hole in the hub reaching down to the wheel bearing. I know this because I changed these wheel bearings last year.

I haven't looked at the parts suggested in the thread, but is there a chance that they are the clamps for the cv-boot?
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Yes, the sensor is there but the ring around the CV not.

Hoping for some more advice on this.

Thank you.
 
deonholt said:
Yes, the sensor is there but the ring around the CV not.

Hoping for some more advice on this.

Thank you.
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Please look at the side that does not show a fault with abs , is there a visable abs ring on the cv joint?
 
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Thomaz27 said:
The abs sensor itself goes down a litele hole in the hub reaching down to the wheel bearing. I know this because I changed these wheel bearings last year.

I haven't looked at the parts suggested in the thread, but is there a chance that they are the clamps for the cv-boot?
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I think you are correct and the ring I mentioned May not be for abs.

I looked up the part number for the wheel bearing and it is for one with a magnetic ring for the abs sensor as you say.
Portlandbill likely correct and if wheel bearing replaced it was fitted wrong way round.

What is going on with mechanics in South Africa ?
 
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I am not in agreement that it is fine for the car to be driven vast distances with a faulty braking system.

Even more so if your son is an inexperienced driver.
 
The thing is I don't think there should be a Abs ring around the cv joint. The abs sensor counts from whitin the hub where the wheel bearing is lokated.

deonholt said:
Yes, the sensor is there but the ring around the CV not.

Hoping for some more advice on this.

Thank you.
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Thank you all for all the help & advise.

The car is a bit far from me now and should see it in 2 weeks' time. Will definitely take pictures of the right wheel and revert back to you. In the mean time I will do a lot of research on this topic.

You guys are wonderful in helping me out. I really appreciate it.
 
jackwhoo said:
I am not in agreement that it is fine for the car to be driven vast distances with a faulty braking system.

Even more so if your son is an inexperienced driver.
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I think 'faulty braking system' is not really what we have here. If the ABS system has a fault in any component, it will not function, leaving the vehicle with its normal braking performance, but without the benefit of ABS, should it be needed. Just the same as any vehicle not fitted with ABS, such as most vehicles built prior to 2004.

No driver should be driving to rely on ABS to get them out of trouble, good observation, anticipation and planning should render the ABS unnecessary. So if the driver takes the care expected of any driver, there should be no problem.

The issue should of course be fixed at the earliest opportunity.
 
portland_bill said:
I think 'faulty braking system' is not really what we have here. If the ABS system has a fault in any component, it will not function, leaving the vehicle with its normal braking performance, but without the benefit of ABS, should it be needed. Just the same as any vehicle not fitted with ABS, such as most vehicles built prior to 2004.

No driver should be driving to rely on ABS to get them out of trouble, good observation, anticipation and planning should render the ABS unnecessary. So if the driver takes the care expected of any driver, there should be no problem.

The issue should of course be fixed at the earliest opportunity.
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Hi,

Perhaps I am being over cautious thinking that vehicle is in South African driving conditions , potentially with an inexperienced driver.

without the abs system the brake force bias reduction to the rear brakes will not be operating increasing the potential for loss of control.

Best wishes
Jack
 
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