Technical Looking for oil filter location on 2010 Bravo 1.4 t-jet with pic

[Sylvester22]

I've done some researching on this, there's videos of diesel versions, where the offside wheel mudguard has to come off as well to access the oil filter, or previous gen Bravos, but nothing on 1.4 t-jet, the 500 with same engine from top has a different layout as well.

It'd be near the turbo I assume, but all I see is that plastic housing with no place to even fit a wrench, also a coolant hose is in the way as well.

Where is the oil filter located on 2010 Bravo 1.4 t-jet 120hp? Cheers

 

[NKVD1934]

I've done some researching on this, there's videos of diesel versions, where the offside wheel mudguard has to come off as well to access the oil filter, or previous gen Bravos, but nothing on 1.4 t-jet, the 500 with same engine from top has a different layout as well.

It'd be near the turbo I assume, but all I see is that plastic housing with no place to even fit a wrench, also a coolant hose is in the way as well.
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Where is the oil filter located on 2010 Bravo 1.4 t-jet 120hp? Cheers

Where's the oil filter? | FIAT Bravo 2 (2007+)

Hi all, just joined the site and need a bit of assistance please. I need to do an oil filter change on my '58 Diesel Bravo 1.6 120Bhp. I believe it's an 'inline' filter? Can someone please tell me whereabouts I find this in the engine bay, and if there are any tricks or hints for getting to it...

www.fiatforum.com

 

[Sylvester22]

Where's the oil filter? | FIAT Bravo 2 (2007+)

Hi all, just joined the site and need a bit of assistance please. I need to do an oil filter change on my '58 Diesel Bravo 1.6 120Bhp. I believe it's an 'inline' filter? Can someone please tell me whereabouts I find this in the engine bay, and if there are any tricks or hints for getting to it...

www.fiatforum.com

So it's not the part with the red arrow?

I've found the comments saying is the same for diesel and petrol, that's odd I've haven't really seen that before.

Is there a trick to remove the oil filter cover? I can't see a place for a socket.
Cheers

 

[NKVD1934]

I didn't did this alone yet.

Search on youtube the following.

How to change oil filter and engine oil on FIAT BRAVO 2 (198)​

 

[Sylvester22]

I didn't did this alone yet.

Search on youtube the following.

How to change oil filter and engine oil on FIAT BRAVO 2 (198)​

I had watched that a few times, the guy is showing a diesel model, where he has to take off the inner arch to access the oil filter, on petrol there's no mentioning that, hence I want to double check about it's location.

 

[NKVD1934]

I think it's the same way.

 

[Sylvester22]

I think it's the same way.

I'll have a look this week and try to take some pics too for futures references.

 

[mofaya]

The arrow is pointing at the correct part. That is the oil filter cap and the filter element is inside, That cap is opened using a 27mm socket, a ratchet with an extention bar and a universal joint socket.

 

[Sylvester22]

The arrow is pointing at the correct part. That is the oil filter cap and the filter element is inside, That cap is opened using a 27mm socket, a ratchet with an extention bar and a universal joint socket.

I've been researching this a lot, and most info came back with this being the location.

The cap shown above with the red arrow, is rather on the top of the engine, and that cap is upside-down, also a coolant hose is completely on top of it, so if that is the oil filter housing, that coolant needs to be drained?
Of course I'm speculation at the moment, I plan on changing it tomorrow, I'm just trying to put the infos together. Cheers

 

[the green vanper]

From FIAT's eLearn:

And the docs from the two included links:

And another linked doc:

However the only photo shows a classic, metal oil filter...

And they don't explain how to reach it...

Might be helpful, I hope

 

[Sylvester22]

However the only photo shows a classic, metal oil filter...
And they don't explain how to reach it...
Might be helpful, I hope

Cheers for this GV, I've saved the previous files and this one shows even more, I've just never seen an oil change this complex. I've also only got a ramp, so not lifting too high, but I'll still have a look and see what I can figure out.

 

[the green vanper]

It's getting more and more complicated to force us to go to the dealer and pay lots of money

I have no idea if you remember the times when changing a headlight bulb was taking 5 minutes including finding the set of spare bulbs If you don't, ask your father. It took me like 30 minutes in the Ducato, which has a huge engine bay, so reaching the bulb should be very easy. Should be Same in my non-FIAT daily. You have to have a very thin forearm, an extra joint would make it much easier. Same for the fingers: longer + extra joint in each would be a great advantage. Forget doing it in a long sleeved shirt or jacket. And of course in both cases you can't see where you operating...

In my father's C3 it is almost impossible to reach the back of the headlight in order to put the rubber cover correctly. At the dealer's they remove the light cluster, so after that they need to align it... And if you fail to put the rubber cover correctly water gets into the light cluster and you have to go to the dealer... And pay even more.

 

[Sylvester22]

It's getting more and more complicated to force us to go to the dealer and pay lots of money

I have no idea if you remember the times when changing a headlight bulb was taking 5 minutes including finding the set of spare bulbs If you don't, ask your father. It took me like 30 minutes in the Ducato, which has a huge engine bay, so reaching the bulb should be very easy. Should be Same in my non-FIAT daily. You have to have a very thin forearm, an extra joint would make it much easier. Same for the fingers: longer + extra joint in each would be a great advantage. Forget doing it in a long sleeved shirt or jacket. And of course in both cases you can't see where you operating...

In my father's C3 it is almost impossible to reach the back of the headlight in order to put the rubber cover correctly. At the dealer's they remove the light cluster, so after that they need to align it... And if you fail to put the rubber cover correctly water gets into the light cluster and you have to go to the dealer... And pay even more.

I've always had older cars, 10+ years, so wasn't much of an issue, like on my mom's '00 Ibiza it took a few minutes removing the bits, on my A2 I was annoyed at first, that it had a engine tray so that needed to be removed lol, but now I'm spending time just to plan it out and playing car-Sherlock trying to find just the oil filter

It's gonna be interesting for sure, I'll update how did it go, if I can do it on my ramp at all. Cheers

 

[Sylvester22]

It's getting more and more complicated to force us to go to the dealer and pay lots of money

Tell me about it, I've been on it for hours now...
The only issue now is the filter housing requires much more torque than 25mn.
The rubber seal doesn't go in smoothly, I put oil on it, there's like 1cm gap, for the edge to sit in properly. If I turn it more, that way over 25mn...more like double.
I can also hear the spring clicking a bit underneath, the thing below the oil filter, so I definitely don't wanna over do it.

I know it'd sit completely, should I apply for force, so the edge sits all the way in? Any advice?

It was a b**ch removing it, I'll make a post later, but I need to sort this out before filling it with oil. Cheers

 

[brooking147]

That does not sound right at all. I don't have experience with a Bravo but looks to be similar to the Punto 1.4 MA.

The cap should go in with nowhere near the torque you say you are using. Were the threads OK? Was the rubber sealing ring sitting in the correct groove?

Sorry not much help but it really should not need to be tightened down with significant force, something is not right.

 

[Sylvester22]

That does not sound right at all. I don't have experience with a Bravo but looks to be similar to the Punto 1.4 MA.

The cap should go in with nowhere near the torque you say you are using. Were the threads OK? Was the rubber sealing ring sitting in the correct groove?

Sorry not much help but it really should not need to be tightened down with significant force, something is not right.

The rubber seal is the issue I assume, it was difficult to remove it as well until it got past the rubber seal, I just hope the clicking of the oil-release(?) spring is normal

 

[brooking147]

The rubber seal is the issue I assume, it was difficult to remove it as well until it got past the rubber seal, I just hope the clicking of the oil-release(?) spring is normal

Just a thought about the clicking - I have never had this sound on my Punto when tightening the filter cap. Don't take this the wrong way but was the filter paper element installed the correct way up? It should 'clip' into the filter cap and requires a sharp pull to remove if fitted correctly.

 

[Sylvester22]

Just a thought about the clicking - I have never had this sound on my Punto when tightening the filter cap. Don't take this the wrong way but was the filter paper element installed the correct way up? It should 'clip' into the filter cap and requires a sharp pull to remove if fitted correctly.

Yes all that, I've triple checked it, clicked in place.
There's a small plate that under the filter, it moves up and down on a spring and presses against the filter.
I've never seen this design, but the filter touches it before, the filter housing needs more force to turn it.

It sits like this, seal just above the edge by1/4" or 0.5cm. The filter has a bit of play, but sit solid without falling out.

 

[brooking147]

Yes all that, I've triple checked it, clicked in place.
There's a small plate that under the filter, it moves up and down on a spring and presses against the filter.
I've never seen this design, but the filter touches it before, the filter housing needs more force to turn it.

In that case I do not know why the cap is taking so much force to tighten. I know mine was difficult to remove when I first got the car but I only ever tighten it down with a light force (don't measure the torque) and have never had any leaks; same after two of three oil changes so far.
Sorry I cannot help.

 

[brooking147]

Just seen your photo - shouldn't the o-ring be in the groove below where you have it?? I think that might be a problem....