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Long journeys Small Engine

Salezal,



You seem to know what your talking about with the chips, so I am not 100% sure why you asked it on the forum in the first place. But keep in mind a couple of things like the warranty can be voided if the aftermarket part causes damage, or adversely affects the emissions or the emissions system, you should be wary of installing any type of chip that requires you to open your car’s ECU case. As a general rule, opening the ECU will immediately void the warranty I mean the reality is that even the most sophisticated ECU adjustment can’t do much to increase power output without modifications to other systems on the car – are you planning on upgrading the exhaust ect?

Having said that there are relatively simple tricks that an “engine chip” can pull to increase power at WOT (Wide Open Throttle) and high RPM conditions. The sacrifice is normally aLOSS of power under other conditions, usually having adverse effects ondrivability. This means that you are sacrificing overall performance forslightly increased power output during a specific fraction of the time, and it definitely will not make your car faster.

Question is – what exactly are you trying to achieve?
 
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Salezal

Interesting points being raised here. Its always the question long journey small engine?? I live in the south of France and drive on rural roads does the little fella handle it? yes. One problem I have had with the T-Jet is due to the low ride height I have some scrapping and damage to the undercarriage of the car especially the muffler , Freddy raised a point earlier on suspension and I do think that rings true, I do not do overly long journeys but its fair to say I do put some miles on her. One question if you have taken a job I would have expected your company to provide you with a car if it’s a remote posting or at minimum at least cover service and wearing costs!! Anyway hindsight is a great thing and im sure it just slipped your mind when negotiating your contract, as we say here in France ne jamais regarder un âne cadeau à l'oeil
 
Just used google translate for "ne jamais regarder un âne cadeau à l'oeil", not sure it works to well. if you could clarify how "never look a gift donkey to the eye" applies to long journeys small engines i would love to know haha.
 
Thanks for the feedback anyway.. very helpful information
 
Salezal
Just been speaking to the crew about your post ECU chip no go with long distance travel at high speeds the longevity of the turbo is compromised. It is a common misconception that car manufacturers design their engines to run at 80% of their capacity. The boys are saying the ECE will overload the turbo with higher spooling with the long high speed travel. Michael198522 seems to offer good advice here. Good luck Laaaa
 
FreddysfastFIAT said:
Salezal
Just been speaking to the crew about your post ECU chip no go with long distance travel at high speeds the longevity of the turbo is compromised. It is a common misconception that car manufacturers design their engines to run at 80% of their capacity. The boys are saying the ECE will overload the turbo with higher spooling with the long high speed travel. Michael198522 seems to offer good advice here. Good luck Laaaa
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The only time a turbo would be under more strain is during hard acceleration, at a steady speed the turbo would be at the same speed regardless of map.
 
Thanks for this Scout, although with a performance chip which will boost PSI through the turbo system, naturally the turbo will be spooling above the standard manufacturers recommendations, in salezal's case, for extended durations(over 400 miles) This will naturally expedite general wear and tear on those components, irrespective of increased maintenance. After all, the turbo system is a wearing part. All the best laaaaa
 
Salezal

Have you considered the VW R32 with the 6 cylinder engine you will no longer ask small engine long journey. I know this May upset people here but I thought I'd through it out there Laaaaa
 
Freddy - I'm not 100% sure you know what your talking about. Who is 'your crew' because I don't think they are giving you the correct information. On top of that why would you suggest the R32? In what way is that a better car suited for the journey? Why go through all that trouble to get a car that for all intensive purposes is equally as capable?

Come on guys we aren't helping Salezal here. Salezal I think you should take the advise of the other members of the forum that are actually answering your question like mywifescar and scout
 
haha, in conclusion, i am getting the car serviced this week, getting a thorough check of all engine,brake and steering/shock components before attempting the drive.

I will see how it goes on a few round trips, if i feel it is struggeling i will have to unfortunatly end my relationship with her. I will not mess with the ECU as its a lovely car to drive stock and i think as a 24 year i can suck it up and deal with a bit of discomfort.

Thanks for all the advice and opinions. Ill repost after trip 1.
 
Michael198522 said:
Freddy - I'm not 100% sure you know what your talking about. Who is 'your crew' because I don't think they are giving you the correct information. On top of that why would you suggest the R32? In what way is that a better car suited for the journey? Why go through all that trouble to get a car that for all intensive purposes is equally as capable?

Come on guys we aren't helping Salezal here. Salezal I think you should take the advise of the other members of the forum that are actually answering your question like mywifescar and scout
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i would say you and salezal are his crew or other personas as you are all connected to brookfield multiplex
 
FYI - this thread has been hi-jacked by FreddysFastFiat. All information posted by him is false and been a waste of time. This thread is still open for dicussion. kind of puts us back to zero for information..
 
I wouldn't say zero. We have all agreed the small engine will be absolutely fine for these journeys. Un-modified with good care taken involving services, oil and general engine healthcare. However the only thing that is doubted, is the comfort of the journey. With many saying a bigger saloon car probably being better suited. But the only one that can judge comfort for you, is well... You.
 
A 1.4 will have no problems covering the miles and there is no reason to believe that parts would wear any faster than a bigger engined vehicle. If I was doing that sort of journey I would not do it in a car without cruise control but then I'm over 50 and prefer my comforts ;). The pro's of a larger car would be a larger space to be in slightly more comfort and probably a quieter vehicle to be in.
 
I just did 970Km in my 1.9 multijet. I don't think it is the cc's or the hp that matters on a journey like that it is the torque. What's really going to tire you out is if you have change gear for every bump in the road.
 
Xgaskr said:
I just did 970Km in my 1.9 multijet. I don't think it is the cc's or the hp that matters on a journey like that it is the torque. What's really going to tire you out is if you have change gear for every bump in the road.
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Torque is more acceleration though, BHP is what maintains momentum iirc.
 
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