General Front fogs/driving lamps

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General Front fogs/driving lamps

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Can you wire the fogs/driving lamps to come on with the main beam, and is it fairly simple? On our old Laguna, it was a matter of reversing a switch. (horrible French car though.....nothing but trouble, give me Italian any day!!:) )

They look great on at night, but they are pretty bright, and loads of people flash when they get p****d off......:bang: .

Any advice apreciated!!

Cheers
Phil
 
Because in the UK it's illegal (never mind downright dangerous) to have your foglights on unless it's actually foggy. How about wiring them into the rear ones? I never understood why they didn't do that anyway, it makes sense to me, you don't turn your front and rear side/beam lights on and off separately :confused:
 
ya its probably illegal in ireland too, but everyone drives with them on!they look pretty cool!!thats the only reason i forked out €310 for them and another €150 for the switch!!
 
It doesn't look cool when you dazzle someone and they smash into you head-on. Fair enough if there's no-one around but if there's other cars, you could kill someone, or they could kill you. Good luck ;)

Dave, when it's a little bit dark you might not need front and back lights either. But they are there for the safety of those driving behind so they don't go into the back of you..........much like rear fogs that people never use when it's foggy :p
 
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the front ones can be used sometimes when its not foggy, hence the name driving or spot lamps. if you're driving on a dark country road with no one around its very useful having them switched on. i used them all the time in the dark.

but having them on for "crusing" is illegal and you get a £30 on the spot fine for your first offence. same for second offence. and on your third they get pissed off and threaten to take you to court (but they dont actually do it).
 
Yup, all`of which is why i want to wire them into main beam.

I dont want them on all the time to p**s off other road users, and if you are around town, they are not on main beam (or shouldnt be!!) so no problem with Plods.

It just makes things a bit easier if they come on and go off when you throw the main beam switch.......

Like jug says, great for country road driving, and living in Mid Wales (proper sheep country!) would be great.

So does anyone know how to do it?:)
 
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Can i make a sujestion.
get a 25W Resister (Big White one) and a switch three way with a resting point in the middle.
solder 12V in to the middle.

Send 12V out from one side through the 10W resister. UP to you to work out the value. but you will find a sutable one in the back of the nearside (Left h
hand side) front headlight of a Rover 200 older shape. G reg ish.

And then send 12V from the other side of the switch to the headlight.

Switch one way and get high brightness the other will not glare but will look nice.

Just a rough guess due to me not knowing what bulbs you have but.

if each bulb is 15W then you would want two resisters about 5 Ohms. one for each light. or one big one for both lights. but then it would have to be a 2.5 Ohm Resister and about 35W

Dont forget to earth the other side of the bulb.

Disclamer, Its up to you to calculate the wattage and resistance. I have used the above as an example and am not resoncable for any dimmwits who "think" they know electronics but dont damaging there car.
 
Good plan, but its not really a matter of them looking nice, i want them to throw out extra light when country road driving.

So if they are normal brightness but go on/off with main beam, much better......
Ta for the idea tho(y)
 
PhilWalker said:
Good plan, but its not really a matter of them looking nice, i want them to throw out extra light when country road driving.

So if they are normal brightness but go on/off with main beam, much better......
Ta for the idea tho(y)

I have angel eye foglights fitted to my Bravo, i have them wired in perminant to my sidelights, therefore the Halo or Ring lights up on sidelights and dipped. Then i can turn the foglights on normally using the original switch panel in the car. Obviously mine is already a HLX so no need for adding a switches.

Angel Eyes On (with Sidelights and Dipped):

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Foglights On:

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Helz said:
It doesn't look cool when you dazzle someone and they smash into you head-on. Fair enough if there's no-one around but if there's other cars, you could kill someone, or they could kill you. Good luck ;)

Dave, when it's a little bit dark you might not need front and back lights either. But they are there for the safety of those driving behind so they don't go into the back of you..........much like rear fogs that people never use when it's foggy :p

if like mine they are properly fitted, they wont dazzle oncoming traffic. they dont shine upwards like normal headlights. people forget to turn off their main beams sometimes when they meet on coming traffic..that has never dazzled me so much that i couldnt see anything and made me veer across the road into head on collision. its the norm in ireland to have them fitted and on when driving at night!
 
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JoskeJTD said:
I have a HID conversion on my car aswell as LED sidelights, hence why the lights are so much whiter than the foglights etc, but should be a perfect colour match with standard halogens.

The foglights are by RING Angel Eyes, available in most car shops or Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RING-ANGEL-EY...ryZ28645QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Nice one joske, may invest in some of those, do they take much work to fit in the normal foglamp holes? My Brava's an ELX.
 
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PhilWalker said:
Nice one joske, may invest in some of those, do they take much work to fit in the normal foglamp holes? My Brava's an ELX.

Not really, i have the abarth bumper on my Bravo now and i used two flat head screws to hold each of them in, via the original mounting points. Took no more than 2mins to fit. (Not including doing the rewiring).

Time taken to swap both foglights in my HLX Bumper, approx 2hours. (That also includes rewiring).

You need to modify ever so slightly the foglight holders. It wont be seen from the outside as you onlt alter the inner part of the holder. Then you need some brackets to hold it. I cut up the originals.

If you do buy a set i have some metal brackets i adapted to fit my original HLX bumper.
 
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klemster said:
if like mine they are properly fitted, they wont dazzle oncoming traffic. they dont shine upwards like normal headlights. people forget to turn off their main beams sometimes when they meet on coming traffic..that has never dazzled me so much that i couldnt see anything and made me veer across the road into head on collision. its the norm in ireland to have them fitted and on when driving at night!
Fogs should be in a 'dipped' adjustment yes, but to get fog penetration, why they're on the car in the first place, the amount of light required for the penetration will rob oncoming drivers of a noticeable amount of night vision for several seconds after you've passed.

Once you've lost your night vision if the road turns in the few seconds after the car has you can't see it you're going to veer across the road to some extent. It varies from person to person however it takes me ~5 seconds to recover a reasonable amount of night vision from someone passing me with mall adjusted dipped or main beams/fogs on and 15~20 seconds to fully recover.
 
I tend to make a mental note of the road ahead before passing someone at night, if their lights are blinding (fogs/main beam/badly adjusted) I can simply shut my eyes for half a second at the last moment, knowing what the road ahead looks like and when I reopen I'm not flashed.. and I am still on the black stuff..
 
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