Ok ! So I went to collect my bravo 100 hlx jtd, that i won on ebay and hadnt looked at !

I dont want to go back to much ! Im a complete idiot and complete noob, im soft in the head this i know.

Ok so drove the car away and there is no power ! its almost as if its in limp mode, did splutter out some smoke randomly ! But I struggled to get past 40.
I know i should of tested it, but there was no tax on it, i had to go get the tax, cost me 100 squid, which was another reason didnt want to take the car back, as that would then be lost money. ya anyways its my fault for being a pleb

Well I got recovered, the guy says its more than likely a throttle sensor !!! as the engine is still running sweet ! and smoke would ov been the car not being able to burn the fuel off, as it was only idling !!!

He said it dosent look like the turbo or anything serious !!!
He did try to hook it up to the diagnostic machine, but it wouldnt connect ! said maybe its to old or summat !

So yeah he comments on how good the condition of the car ! But that dont mean anything when i cant frigging drive it....

he says I should try unplugging the throttle sensor, then plug it back, might work if not, replace it !!!!!

what do you fink !!!

not to give the whole sob story, but i borrowed the money for this lemon, for a new im going to be starting, and have been on my arse for a while, always the way eh, these things happen when you least need them to !!!!

Im trying to look for sensors, but all the ones i have seen seem to be part of the throttle, i was led to believe its something thats attached to the pedel ??? Is this right ? or does this have a different name ?

Yoshi2u said:

Im trying to look for sensors, but all the ones i have seen seem to be part of the throttle, i was led to believe its something thats attached to the pedel ??? Is this right ? or does this have a different name ?

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Sounds like possible EGR, where you from, perhaps someone here can plug a scanner in for you. Don't guess faults , will cost a fortune!!

Mal126 said:

Sounds like possible EGR, where you from, perhaps someone here can plug a scanner in for you. Don't guess faults , will cost a fortune!!

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It sounds like a MAF problem. But the recommendation as above is the best - get a scanner.
You can download www.fiatecuscan.net from the internet and get a VAG-COM cable from ebay plus a 3 pin adaptor (if prior to 2000?) all for less than £20.

Thanks for your response guys !

If you knew what a low eb Im at right now, feel sick as a dog, So all the advice is needed and welcome !!!

My friend mentioned ERG ! But the guy who recovered me, who Im dont thinnk is a career mechanic, just wagon driver turned.....not to say he dont know he's stuff. But he said he didnt think it was the EGR, because that would more likely cause iratic idling !

One observation now after running round the corner one street, is that there is less power than at first !

He was saying it was in get you home mode, not even limp mode per say, as there were are no warning lights on, and that would still allow for 40 mph. He said that is was ticking over as such, and that alone was making it go, upto the very bloody hard 30-35 i was getting !!!

He had a very small diagnostic computer, but he said it couldnt connect !!! Maybe not compatable !!!

Well as Im up sh** street, and only bought the car as i have a final interview at toyota in derby on wednsday. So i got it going into a garagte tomorrow to be hooked up, and see what they say......

I gave the young lad a real fooking guilt trip, he says he will put some money towards it !

forgot to say its a 2001 model !

I would normally endeavour down the DIY route, but I just havent got the time. Id rather see if they can tell me anything tomorrow ! Im not familiar with the garage ! do many people charge just to hook it up the comp, he wants 35 just for that, seems wrong to me !

I hope its at least something they can find easily, as for whether i can afford it, that another thing, but wont keep bitchin about it lol.

like i said, even the recovery bloke commented on the condition of it, no rust ! and even thou it dont drive, the engine sounds and ticks over sweet as a nut hahahahahahahahahahahahaha mmmmmwwwwwwhahahahahahahahahaahahahhaahhaahha

ps North east at the mo, Redcar ! but not for long, got to be in Derby for wednsday afternoon.....................

sorry for all the add-ons

Forgot to mention, dont know if this points to owt BUT

today it was reving max 4000-4500, but just been out to it, and its maxing at 2000. its idling perfect at between 8-900 revs

Yoshi2u said:

sorry for all the add-ons

Forgot to mention, dont know if this points to owt BUT

today it was reving max 4000-4500, but just been out to it, and its maxing at 2000. its idling perfect at between 8-900 revs

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If it is from 2001, you probably won't need to get the 3-pin adaptor and can connect the OBD2 (that is the VAG-COM) directly to the car. I am not sure you where to find the connector but it should be nearby the fuses box.
A way to find out whether the MAF is the culprit is to disconnect it and go for a spin.
Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of the engine right here, let's just hope somebody comes in and gives a further help.
Do a search on this forum; you'll find lots of useful information.
Sorry for the loose guidelines but that's all I can do at the moment.
Cheers

When I bought my JTD a few weeks ago it was feeling a bit flat. Not as bad as you describe, but still very sluggish. It turned out to be a MAF failure.

It won't hurt to disconnect the MAF wiring plug and see if the engine produces decent power. Worked for me

All advice welcome people !!!

Im absolutely raping google and all the forums for any info !

Yes ! Ive read a few posts on the notorious MAF sensor ! Ive asked on a couple how badly the Maf could affect the power, and if to this greater effect

Like i say Im between a rock an a hard place, and cant afford to dilly dally :slayer:

so im taking this lemon in for diagonostic int morn, and see if they can find anything. while giving them the shirt of me back i imagine.........

You could potentially save yourself a few ££££s. The MAF takes seconds to disconnect. Then take the car for a short run to see if the engine revs properly.

If it works then you just need a new MAF and you haven't had to pay for any diagnostics.

I was put off by reading another thread on here, where someone really struggled to get the right size torque key or summat, and then snapped a screw and end up cutting it off, i know i should stay strong, and not be deterred !

Thanks for your advice !!!!

Dont panic to much, the fact that it idles fine is a good thing its not the engine mechanically that's at fault just a leccy bit attached to it.
As mentioned just unplug the MAF no need to remove it just yet.

Yoshi2u said:

I was put off by reading another thread on here, where someone really struggled to get the right size torque key or summat, and then snapped a screw and end up cutting it off, i know i should stay strong, and not be deterred !

Thanks for your advice !!!!

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It's just a wiring connector you need to unplug. You'll only need a security torx bit to remove the old sensor if you confirm it has failed. The torx bits can be bought from Machine Mart (order code 040215143) or other similar shops.

I bought my MAF from these people.

http://www.airflowmeters.co.uk

I did start to think that after me last post, can i disconnect it without removing the battery ???

Here's the morning update !

And its worrying ! to me the layman

Ok so i got the MAF sensor off, little blighter !!! so the car althou in the first few seconds, it seemed to have no effect, it has now started reving back up to 3000 revs, but not without some nasty black smoke, and theres a oil leak of some sort in the engine bay, when i press the gas, smoke coming from somewhere in the engine bay ! I cant see where exactly !

But all I can think is TURBO TURBO TURBO

I dont know enough, so I dont know if im worrying to much, if not enough hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha

This is all I cn think with the lack of power ! and the leak of whatever in the engine, plus the black smoke !!!

but taking off the maf sensor did make some differance lol

Been in contact wiv the lad, says hes sure nothing wrong wiv the turbo or engine ! he rekons throttle sensor !!! he said he wasnt aware of any smoke from engine bay. althou it only really happens when i press the gas !

well its in the garage at the moment, really interested to see what they say !!!

Just popped into the garage, as its only on the next street.
He said he didnt bother putting on the diagnostic as no engine management light on, plus the smoke points to something else, 1st impression he says dosent look good ! but hes bout to get it iin the air and take a better look

i only popped into to give him my mobile number while i go out !

Got a message off the lad, he says it only had a recon year an half ago, but guess that means nothing ! Says he know some good suppliers to get one from !!! i wonder how friggin much ! , actually i dont wanna fink about it