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You’ve misunderstood then, type A is not spread in humans, it is thought to be the original virus from which Covid developed from, the type B and C as shown are know to have both spread around the world both developed in Wuhan
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I saw that interview, she was brilliant. No hype, no fake news, very, very clear.
She mentioned the different strains of Covid-19 but said they were so similar that a single vaccine would (should?) cover those different strains.
The interview is here from 16:40 onwards.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000hk96/the-andrew-marr-show-19042020
No, I have not misunderstood, there are 3 mutations two effect humans.
you said there were 2 and I. without meaning any malice made your stement more factual
Really? Because the origin virus is not “Covid19” which is what I said “there are thought to be two types of Covid19” this is what they would be making a vaccine for, which was the point of discussion, they are not going to be making a vaccine for a virus that does not effect humans.
Your little graphic talks about corona viruses, of which there are a lot more than 3... if you want to be more ‘factual’?
That's not what the research is saying; type A was the first type to be spread by human to human contact; in China.
The most recent proper research article I could find on the subject is here. This clearly decribes three distinct strains currently cirulating in the human population.
That said, it may by now be out of date as, like almost all viruses, this is mutating as I type this and another group of researchers in Thailand are talking about having identified at least eight different strains of COVID-19.
If you read the serious research, it's apparent that this rabbit hole is way deeper than some folks currently seem to think it is. There may not be any easy way out, and the human race may have to find a way to live with this virus for many years to come.
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5 types in usa, they still havent managed to isolate any of them, again a vaccine within 18 months you will be human guinea pigs, backed by government bail out as big pharma wont indemnify it as it would hit profits if they have to pay out billions in compensation.
fingers burnt trying to support your statement but you're being too pedantic
3 variations and all effect humans to a differant degree, C came from B, B mutated from A
and there are probably going to be a lot more mutations unless it is stopped.
I think time to give reading this thread a rest and let it burn itself out. Back to Panda stuff for me.
3 variations and all effect humans to a differant degree, C came from B, B mutated from A
and there are probably going to be a lot more mutations unless it is stopped.
I think time to give reading this thread a rest and let it burn itself out. Back to Panda stuff for me.
Sadly anyone who uses the words “Big Pharmma” basically identify themselves as an antivaxer, so by using they you do throw anyway credibility
Tablets and vaccines work in different ways.
A tablet acts on the chemistry In the body the way they work mean there can be many complications that are not foreseen
A vaccine does not act on the chemistry of the body, you are just looking for the body to create an immune response to something and for that it doesn’t need to be something that is alive or particularly dangerous. The whole origins of vaccines was giving someone a smaller does of the virus, therefore modern vaccines are much safer than that.
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Anti vaxxers who are they, unfortunately the government will be the bail out if anything goes wrong, big pharma the word has nothing to do antivaxxers but im assuming youre accusing me of being against vaccines, i never stated i was nor did the two german doctors with 55 years of experience between them on france 24 say they were, they just pointed out that the companies developing the vaccine ( they mentioned 7 companies so big pharma, nothing to do with antivaxxers, will be asking for government backing if human trials go ahead as the timescale being asked for does not allow for proper serious tests.
For all my years growing up (may not have finished that yet) there was a research establishment for the common cold on the outskirts of Salisbury. I think it may have been an old army camp.
You could book a fortnight 'holiday' there, where you would get infected with a cold strain and looked after and monitored while research was done with the strain, any mutations, and any treatments. And you'd get paid.
Not most people's first thought of a hoilday.
After many years, with no success, the government shut it down. It is now a new (ish) housing estate.
I think I'd be a bit worried about buying one of those houses.
“Big pharma” as a term was coined by antivaxers, everywhere you find antivaxers you’ll find conspiracy theories about “big pharma”
I didn’t accuse you of being against vaccines, I merely drew the comparison that you’re using the same sort of language as antivaxers.... but you are complaining about vaccines being bad.....?
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Im not complaining that vaccines are bad, im pointing out that many specialist doctors are saying a vaccine could be rushed through without proper testing, so the trials will be on humans and the companies trying to rush this through are saying we wont pay the compensation if things go bad and are asking governments to cover their backsides, so win win for a multi trillion pound vaccine.
if you want a vaccine to work on a human then testing on a human has to be the best option, there are plenty of humans who will put themselves up for it to save others.
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(almost) Anyone who can feel the end coming will sign with both hands to be tested with an experimental treatment ... Some might even be so altruist that they'd "sacrify" themselves as guinea pigs, but honestly I don't think it's the vast majority of us.
BTW: 2 = 1 !!
TWO versions of something (being a virus or not) is ONE mutation: B version mutated from A version ...
"Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement, et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément". Nicolas Boileau
Thanks to google translate: "What is well conceived is clearly stated, and the words to say it come easily". Nicolas Boileau
Stay safe @ home... Bernie
BTW: 2 = 1 !!
TWO versions of something (being a virus or not) is ONE mutation: B version mutated from A version ...
"Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement, et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément". Nicolas Boileau
Thanks to google translate: "What is well conceived is clearly stated, and the words to say it come easily". Nicolas Boileau
Stay safe @ home... Bernie
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This thread is more and more becoming a pissing contest.
Let's go back to cars. Fiat's!
gr J
Let's go back to cars. Fiat's!
gr J
delivered to a customer today who don't believe this is serious and its all some sort of conspiracy :bang::bang:
They may well have a good stock of toilet paper though, just in case, and may well believe the earth is flat.
Sadly, there are many more out there, not taking care.
Yesterday I witnessed several children ouot alone, running or on their bicycles, no concept of social distancing and with the effort of cycling, breathing more heavily, so increasing any risk to others.
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Who said the parents were responsible of their kid's education ?
It had been like this "before", but it slowly but surely drift with generations; many parents are still (trying) to transmit "good behaviour" while some others do teach their kids how to survive, either in poor conditions or on somebody else's account. BTW like back in colonies's time ...
Seems like the current crisis will shake-up some fundamentals about our living society's choices, hopefully for a best future, even for the next generation(s) !!
Regards ans stay safe at home, Bernie.
