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Re: Fiat 500 Abarth for 2014? Possible changes / facelift?

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You just want to have what appears to be the newest car our there don't you....
No not really. I just don't want a car to be outdated moments shortly after purchase. If I were assured that the current derivative was not to change for a considerable amount of time in the foreseeable future, our purchase would be confirmed.
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Re: Fiat 500 Abarth for 2014? Possible changes / facelift?

No one on here or at a dealer can assure you of that.
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Not sure why you need the latest. It'll still be 3 years old in 3 years, as will a car you buy in 2 year time will be 3 years old in 5 years time.
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Re: Fiat 500 Abarth for 2014? Possible changes / facelift?

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No not really. I just don't want a car to be outdated moments shortly after purchase. If I were assured that the current derivative was not to change for a considerable amount of time in the foreseeable future, our purchase would be confirmed.
Makes sense to me. I'm looking at buying the current S but before parting with lots of cash it's sensible to see what's coming down the line so you can buy at the start of a new line up and not the end of an old one, undoubtedly will affect potential resale value if you were to trade in after a few years. Of course the car will be 2 years old in 2 years and there will always be a new model on the way but good timing can be prudent.
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No not really. I just don't want a car to be outdated moments shortly after purchase. If I were assured that the current derivative was not to change for a considerable amount of time in the foreseeable future, our purchase would be confirmed.
Why would any dealer or car maker want to assure you of that? They're interested in shifting metal. Telling people that the new one is on the way at a particular time is a good way of causing everyone to behave like you and wait for the 'latest'. Just buy the car you like and enjoy it, it's going to get old anyway.

If you change cars every 2-3 years, it doesn't matter..
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Re: Fiat 500 Abarth for 2014? Possible changes / facelift?

We're unlikely to be in the market for an Abarth, we haven't even got our 1.2 Pop yet (hopefully only a week or two away now), but when it comes time to replace/upgrade that, it would be cool if the new models had suicide doors and the option of a fabric sunroof. I expect there might be problems keeping the 5 star NCAP rating with the doors, but a nice simple folding roof that retains the rear visibility and loading practicality of the hatch shouldn't be a problem should it???
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Re: Fiat 500 Abarth for 2014? Possible changes / facelift?

According to my dealer, the Fiat plant in Tychy is the only one working 3 shifts around the clock. Thatís good, but in the current economical climate they have to sell the cars at up to 20% discount from list price (in Germany). So theyíre moving metal, but profits are down. Not a good time to invest in new tooling perhaps.

Iíve also read that Fiat plans to move the Mexican assembly line to Poland in, or for model year, 2016 to Poland, for all 500s worldwide.

This is just hearsay, of course.
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The tooling would stay much the same, these days a facelift merely involves a change of bumpers and light clusters.
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Re: Fiat 500 Abarth for 2014? Possible changes / facelift?

There's supposed to be a 'all new' 500 for 2016. It will get the NAFTA 'upgrades' for sure (I'd like 'cruise' but the NAFTA cars are a lot heavier). It will probably look to the current 500 as the new-New Mini looks to the old New Mini, not much different but not quite as together.

Let's face it, everytime a retro car has been 'MKII'd", it's lost it's styling purity.

I think the 500 is the oldest volume car you can currently buy excluding the ancient Defender , and it's mechanical base is a 2003 model. Can't go on forever.

As far as coming facelifts, I think the 'S' model will be it for major changes to the current model.
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They'd do well to leave the exterior of the car alone if they're going to do an all new model.
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It's inevitable they'll add bling LEDs all over the shop.
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It's inevitable they'll add bling LEDs all over the shop.
Not necessarily. They haven't with the L or XL have they.
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Not necessarily. They haven't with the L or XL have they.
No but the new Mini has given in. Will be a shame if the 500 does too.
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Will be a shame if the 500 does too.
A shame, or a step forward perhaps? LED are the future tbh.
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Depends if they make them gawdy or not.
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