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Stop start battery

Hi,
I have read a few threads on batteries- but i'll admit they have got me more confused!
I need a new battery, as I understand I need a specific stop-start battery, however the ones I have come across (on websites where you search for batteries with your reg number) have different values that the current battery in my car e.g. lower Ah and A
Does this matter? Do i need a battery that exactly matches what I currently have? My current battery is 12V 63Ah 450A- the ones online all matched the 12V but not always the other values.

Sorry if this is a really simple question- but I read if the wrong battery is put in it can cause failure? and they are quite expensive so really wanted to be sure before spending the money.
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Re: Stop start battery

This is the one I've just bought and have bought it before on another 500.

https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l...9051&0&cc5_997
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Re: Stop start battery

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Hi,
Does this matter? Do i need a battery that exactly matches what I currently have? My current battery is 12V 63Ah 450A- the ones online all matched the 12V but not always the other values.
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The 12V is basic, no alternative. the 63Ah figure is the capacity (amount of energy) a small difference, +_10% would not be an issue, (bigger is "better") the 450A is the cranking power, you should not go lower than the specified value for a car with stop-start. The correct figure should be in the manual.
More importantly, for long battery life, you should only use a battery designed for stop-start applications. These are typically AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) types.
Don't go with the on-line guides, check the manual and markings on current battery. There will also be a size code such as 027 with the electrical values.

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Hi,
The 12V is basic, no alternative. the 63Ah figure is the capacity (amount of energy) a small difference, +_10% would not be an issue, (bigger is "better") the 450A is the cranking power, you should not go lower than the specified value for a car with stop-start. The correct figure should be in the manual.
More importantly, for long battery life, you should only use a battery designed for stop-start applications. These are typically AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) types.
Don't go with the on-line guides, check the manual and markings on current battery. There will also be a size code such as 027 with the electrical values.

Robert G8RPI.
Thank you- this really clears it up! I'll get searching in the manual for the correct figures.
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Re: Stop start battery

How about this for Sod's law. We are selling our 61 plate 500 as it isn't getting used much, it has just today done 8000 miles and will be 4 years old in Sept. It's a 1.2 Lounge Stop Start.

I was going to take it down to see a secondhand van dealer and see how much he would offer PX as I need a newer van for work. So it started first time but seemed a bit sluggish but once I drove it out of the drive I had to switch it off so I can get out and close the gates. Tried to restart nothing just everything clicking and dash lights flashing dimly, so I knew straightaway it was the battery.

Got a jump start from my neighbour and drove the the 25 miles or so to the van dealers but no stop start so obviously there was a battery problem, it was fine yesterday. Fortunately the Fiat dealers we bought it from is about a mile from the van dealers, so I thought just in case it won't restart when I turn it off, I would pull up at the dealers first and try it. Nothing dead as a dodo just clicking and flashing. Better for it to conk out there than at the place I was trying to PX it at.

Anyway got the dealer to check the battery and I watched him do it and it confirmed the battery needed replacing. Fortunately they had one in stock and I knew the price was going to hurt but I had no choice. 217.00 including 58 labour to fit it. I suspect this was the 500's way of saying don't let me go.
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Re: Stop start battery

eeek! Luckily I was able to get a battery today for 96! Mine was fine, just one morning refused to start and came up with lots of failure lights etc then had no power at all. I was contemplating towing it to the local fiat dealer- glad I got the battery myself now! Back up and running
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Re: Stop start battery

Received my new battery today, disconnected the old one for about an hour, installed the new one. The power steering fault has gone away.

Unfortunately the mileage is still flashing so I guess I need a proxy alignment. Have no idea how I get that done!!!
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Re: Stop start battery

Hi alfie440 & typecastboy
could you tell me what (specs) battery you got and where from, the wifes twinair batt is on its way out after 3 yrs of short hop journeys,
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How about this for Sod's law. We are selling our 61 plate 500 as it isn't getting used much, it has just today done 8000 miles and will be 4 years old in Sept. It's a 1.2 Lounge Stop Start.

I was going to take it down to see a secondhand van dealer and see how much he would offer PX as I need a newer van for work. So it started first time but seemed a bit sluggish but once I drove it out of the drive I had to switch it off so I can get out and close the gates. Tried to restart nothing just everything clicking and dash lights flashing dimly, so I knew straightaway it was the battery.

Got a jump start from my neighbour and drove the the 25 miles or so to the van dealers but no stop start so obviously there was a battery problem, it was fine yesterday. Fortunately the Fiat dealers we bought it from is about a mile from the van dealers, so I thought just in case it won't restart when I turn it off, I would pull up at the dealers first and try it. Nothing dead as a dodo just clicking and flashing. Better for it to conk out there than at the place I was trying to PX it at.

Anyway got the dealer to check the battery and I watched him do it and it confirmed the battery needed replacing. Fortunately they had one in stock and I knew the price was going to hurt but I had no choice. 217.00 including 58 labour to fit it. I suspect this was the 500's way of saying don't let me go.
thats your fault for going to a fiat dealer to fit a battery. no excuses you could have done it for half the price.
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Re: Stop start battery

Mine cost 93.40 delivered.
I see that it's gone up considerably since I bought it, and it was only three months ago.



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Re: Stop start battery

Is there a way of telling how old a battery is when you buy a new one? Is there a manufacture date on them somewhere? My SS battery started acting up about 9 months after I bought the car brand new, it was a factory order so the car wasent hanging around before I bought it. The battery in it is an Exide - does one assume Fiat are using duff 'new' batteries in their cars? The car is doing the usual restart thing after about 10 secs during cold weather but behaves ok when warmer. A top up charge dident make any difference.
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my fiat battery lasted me 1.5 years = ) car was ordered brand new from factory so the battery could not have been put in the car more than 2 years before it died. i am thinking fiat put batteries that do not have enough capacity for the job at hand, hence they don't last long at all.

my bosch higher capacity battery absolutely no problems and its more than 1.5 years old now. (that is my 3rd battery for my 4.5 year old car = ) )
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thats your fault for going to a fiat dealer to fit a battery. no excuses you could have done it for half the price.
I think you have missed the whole point of my post.

I was taking the car to be viewed for PX, the last thing I wanted was for it to not start on their forecourt. I could have simply stayed at home and ordered a new battery on the Internet and waited a few days for it to turn up and missed out on the van that I was looking to buy.

The reason I stopped at the dealers was to see if the car would start or not, which it didn't. It seemed the most sensible place to stop rather than some random place where if it wouldn't restart, I would be stranded and have to call out the RAC to jump start the car and sit around waiting for them.
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Quote Originally Posted by Vitesse View Post
I think you have missed the whole point of my post.

I was taking the car to be viewed for PX, the last thing I wanted was for it to not start on their forecourt. I could have simply stayed at home and ordered a new battery on the Internet and waited a few days for it to turn up and missed out on the van that I was looking to buy.

The reason I stopped at the dealers was to see if the car would start or not, it seemed the most sensible place to stop rather than some random place where if it wouldn't restart, I would have to call out the RAC to jump start the car and sit around waiting for them.
it depends if you don't mind sitting for an hour to save 100 GBP = )
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