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Very lucky that your wife is ok. Little 500 did well against a truck.
If it's a write off you can buy a new one with insurance money.
If it's a write off you can buy a new one with insurance money.
Huh, good fortune in the car not flipping! What sort of speed did that happen at?
Sad to see that. I remember you bought that car roughly around the time I got mine, and since both our TwinAirs have a Remuc-controlled Webasto & a battery charger, I felt some 500-kinship.
Well, if this one is written off (will hopefully know very soon), a new TwinAir Lounge will be ordered to replace it. A lovely car I think and my wife just plain adores it.
In case you end up with a new TwinAir and intend to kit it like the current one, just keep in mind that a EURO6 car may throw some error codes if the engine is warmed up with a heater as powerful as these Webasto units, too big of a difference between intake air temp and coolant temp etc.
Condolences.
So glad you are unhurt. Everything else can be replaced.
Your little car has done its job well. Personally I wouldn't want it repaired after that amount of damage.
Interesting that you'd have no codes but still a noticeably difference in power.That is a very good point and one that I am actually contemplating. Even our current 500 did occasionally show some weird behaviour on cold mornings after having been warmed up with the Webasto. Like in scenarios where it was -20C outside and the engine and interior were at +10C. The car always starts normally, but feels short on power. Shut it down and start it up again and all was back to normal. No error codes at any time. But this only occurred occasionally and only when the temperature difference between outside and the warmed up car was large. I took this to be on account of the Webasto and learned to manage the temp difference in way as to not let it get too big. But if the later engines are even more sensitive, then I might actually consider dropping the Webasto from the 500 (especially since the Q2 has one).
The insurance company confirmed that the car will be written off. The good thing is that due to the car being less than 3 years or and having covered less than 60k kilometers, insurance will cover the purchase of a new equivalent car with same equipment without any cost to us. The only thing unclear is if this also applies to the Webasto, but will have that clarified soon as well...
A noob signing in from Finland. About to pull the trigger on a 500 for the wife.
Up here in Finland the available engine range for the 500 is limited to the 69hp 1.2 and the 80hp 0.9 TwinAir. The problem is that there are no opportunities to drive the TwinAir before purchase. I am also a bit puzzled about the TwinAir being 80hp instead of the 85hp it seems to have in other markets. The dealer is saying that this is due it being the Eco version of the TwinAir and that means it has 80hp and emissions of only 88 grams vs the 85hp and emissions at 93 grams. The torque figures are identical. They also confirm that it is a petrol engine and not the bi-fuel version that is available in some markets.
I am not concerned about the 5hp less output as even the 1.2 is ok in town, but a little more oomph would be nice (and both TwinAir versions deliver that over the 1.2). The TwinAir is also cheaper to insure. So, to make the long story short, I guess I am just wondering if the price difference is not an issue, is there any reason for not going for the TwinAir?
As for the rest of the car, it would be Lounge spec car with Xenons, Interscope hifi and auto-dimming mirror and 16" 10-double spoke wheels (the same as the ones that come standard with the Cult version). The wife does not like leather, so the fabric interior with Ivory ambience would be the one. And the exterior would be Bossanova white (or Gelato white as its called here). Anything critical that I have missed or something else I should consider?
I guess that was to be expected. Think you'll go for 85hp or 105hp TA?
Due to different emission rules in so many countries, there are a lot of different TwinAir engines.
In the Netherlands it starts back in the day with 85 hp TwinAir turbo, later on a "NON" turbo TwinAir came available with 65 hp, and a bigger Turbo TA 105 hp version.
The emission rules got sharper and the NON turbo went back to 60 hp and the turbo went back to 80 hp, and the bigger turbo to 100 hp. (all Euro-5 engines)
Then Fiat start with Euro-6 engines, de NON turbo stay the same, but the Turbo's changed.
Now the new 85 hp TwinAir Turbo got exactly the same cylinder head as the TA 105 hp version but with a smaller turbo and restricted to the same 80 hp as before.
With the new emission rules it was no longer necessary to limit the 105 hp version because it got one class higher anyway because it could no meet the new low rules.
So now a days we have non turbo 60, turbo 80 and bigger turbo 105 available.
And stil the 1.2 FIRE 69 hp.
It is very likely to be the 85hp TA. The 105hp TA is not for sale in Finland and I do not think I will do a private import. But at least the current TA has 85hp instead of 80hp