General Not happy. what would you do?

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General Not happy. what would you do?

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I've had quite an ordeal with my new 500.

The heated rear screen had a tiny break in one horizontal element from new, which meant that strip didn't work. The dealership said that a new rear screen was required. It was ordered from Fiat and duly fitted at the dealership by a national franchise, which they use.

On collecting the car, I was very disappointed to see several chips on the paintwork surrounding the window and the inside pillars were badly chipped all around, down to bare metal in places. the service manager agreed that it was a poor job and assured me that the paintwork damage would be rectified and the window refitted. They had the car for a week. When the car returned to me and I examined it under daylight, I could see that the respray was a poor job, not an exact colour match, especially under street lights, heavily swirled from buffing and with a distinct "tide mark" halfway down the tailgate where the resprayed paintwork met the original paint. All this for a few small paint chips which I could have touched in myself, but the dealership said it was up to them to put it right.

Apparently the national company who replaced the windscreen had to foot the bill for the paintwork rectification and had, in my opinion, gone for the cheapest option of getting in a local, I assume franchise, with a van and paint mixing/spraying equipment. When I pointed the work out to the dealership, they agreed that it was not up to standard on a brand new car, with no fault at all attributed to me in the first place. The service manager and his superior showed the paintwork problems to the young guy who'd carried out the respray. I stood and listened and it was clear that he had no solution.

I'v now been told that the company who resprayed the car are going to be responsible for footing the bill for another respray. They want me to take the car in to my dealer on Monday so that the lady who is the company manager (or maybe the lad who does the paintwork, after all I'd never know?) of the small respray company can drive the car the 26 miles to Birmingham where it can be properly resprayed in the dealership's main body shop with respraying facilities. At least, I assume that's where the car will be resprayed.

I've told the service manager that isn't going to happen, as I'm not happy with someone who I've never met, who isn't from the dealership from whom I purchased the car, driving it up the motoway. After all, how do I know that they have the necessary insurance? I offered to drive the car up there myself, all the dealership have to do is arrange a courtesy car for me to pick-up in Birmingham. He said that if that's the case, the paintwork company will have to foot the bill for my hire car (!)

The dealership have told me that they have used a local bodyshop in the past just a few hundred yards away who have a very high reputation and have produced faultless work. I've asked him why they can't do the work on my car, but apparently the paintwork company want to use the main dealership's Birmingam body shop.

I have a case number from Fiat for this problem as I contacted them initially when the windscreen was put in and the paintwork was damaged.

What would other 500 owners do in my position? I'd very much appreciate other people's opinions.
 
I might be over simplfying this.
But I don't see the issue.
The repair isn't up to standard and they have offered to get it sorted. All you have to do is drop the car off at your local dealer.

That would be exactly the result I would be looking for. :)
 
The issue is that the dealership from whom I bought the car have told me that resolving the paintwork issue is the responsibility of the small company who resprayed it. Not directly theirs. They've also told me that the lady who runs the small company will be driving my car up the motorway and in to Birmingham to the dealership's main bodyshop to get the car resprayed at the small company's expense.

It doesn't seem to be a professional way for a main dealer to be doing things.
 
The issue is that the dealership from whom I bought the car have told me that resolving the paintwork issue is the responsibility of the small company who resprayed it. Not directly theirs. They've also told me that the lady who runs the small company will be driving my car up the motorway and in to Birmingham to the dealership's main bodyshop to get the car resprayed at the small company's expense.

It doesn't seem to be a professional way for a main dealer to be doing things.

It is the responsibility of the repairer to correct the repair. In this case the company who resprayed it. I still don't see the problem with someone else driving the car. Factory workers, Dock workers, storage yard workers, salesmen and techs will all have driven the car so far, and the boss of a bodyshop will have trade insurance so will be fully covered for drving your car.

I understand it is inconveniant. But sometimes things are just inconveniant.

But that's just my opinion. :)
 
I don't understand why the "paint company"( Chips Away franchise or similar ? )is deciding where your car is to be repaired. It should be painted where the dealer thinks the best job will be done and nothing else, with the bill going to the windscreen company.
 
I've been informed that the bill will go to the paint company, (not Chips Away", but a similar set-up) and not to the winscreen company, as the rectification work is being done on the paint job. So they can decide where they want to take it. (As long as I agree).

It seems that they can take my car where they want and I am privelidged that they're getting the rectification work done for me at their expense(!)
 
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I still don't see the problem with someone else driving the car. Factory workers, Dock workers, storage yard workers, salesmen and techs will all have driven the car so far, and the boss of a bodyshop will have trade insurance so will be fully covered for drving your car.

I personally wouldn't be happy either to be frank, I'm with FireballXL5man. And I don't mean insurance-wise.
The car may have been driven before but certainly not at full speed on the motorway. You know how some people are with company cars, different animals revving up and really not caring about it since it is not theirs......same might happen here too.
In FireballXL5man I don't know the distance involved, but just to know someone in my car on a motorway, tut tut! :mad:
That company messed up and should provide a tow truck or come to him. That is something I'd insist on.

On a slighlty different theme I remember that story not so long ago:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...-Roadhawk-Video-Shows/Article/200911215446691
 
I personally wouldn't be happy either to be frank, I'm with FireballXL5man. And I don't mean insurance-wise.
The car may have been driven before but certainly not at full speed on the motorway. You know how some people are with company cars, different animals revving up and really not caring about it since it is not theirs......same might happen here too.
In FireballXL5man I don't know the distance involved, but just to know someone in my car on a motorway, tut tut! :mad:
That company messed up and should provide a tow truck or come to him. That is something I'd insist on.

On a slighlty different theme I remember that story not so long ago:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...-Roadhawk-Video-Shows/Article/200911215446691

Which couldn't happen if the car went to a bodyshop closer?
Also what would you do if your car has an issue that only happens above 60 mph. Deny the tech the opportunity to road test the car at the speed the issue happens?
 
There is a very highly regarded bodyshop just a few hundred yards from the dealership with a proven track record of first class work, why shouldn't I insist on it being done there?
 
Which couldn't happen if the car went to a bodyshop closer?
Also what would you do if your car has an issue that only happens above 60 mph. Deny the tech the opportunity to road test the car at the speed the issue happens?

We're talking paintwork here I believe... :confused:
Plus if the bodyshop is that closer, I 'd drive it myself. My point is not being happy with a stranger in my car for many miles at high speed, that is all. ;)
I know what I'd ask and insist on for sure!
Have some balls FireballXL5man, you've been messed about enough as it is! (y)
 
There is a very highly regarded bodyshop just a few hundred yards from the dealership with a proven track record of first class work, why shouldn't I insist on it being done there?

Because it has nothing to do with them. Your problem is with the repairer of the car not the dealership. But it is the dealerships problem to get the resolution out of the repairer.
 
We're talking paintwork here I believe... :confused:
Plus if the bodyshop is that closer, I 'd drive it myself. My point is not being happy with a stranger in my car for many miles at high speed, that is all. ;)
I know what I'd ask and insist on for sure!
Have some balls FireballXL5man, you've been messed about enough as it is! (y)

Yes and the car has to be left there with the keys. I guess I'm just more laid back than you. I am prepared to take people on what they say they will do. Rather than get paranoid about what they might do if so inclined.

I still don't see how he has been messed about. Other than the original repair not being upto scratch. He complained the repair was poor. They have responded with ok. We will sort it. :confused:
 
Your contract is with the dealer and it is the dealers responsibility to make right the bodged job.

They therefore have to offer you a solution which you are happy with. If you do not want your car taken repaired in Birmingham then stick to your position.

How they resolve the problem with their subcontractor is their problem not yours and they should leave you out of it.
 
Your contract is with the dealer and it is the dealers responsibility to make right the bodged job.

They therefore have to offer you a solution which you are happy with. If you do not want your car taken repaired in Birmingham then stick to your position.

How they resolve the problem with their subcontractor is their problem not yours and they should leave you out of it.

Exactly, and at the end of the day it is the dealers responsibility to get it repaired to a satisfactory standard regardless of who has bodged it to date. Of course to do the job properly the window will need to come out again.
 
To summarise the chain of events:-

1. Rear window was replaced at dealership by windscreen subcontractor.
2. Paintwork was damaged during 1.
3. Paintwork was "repaired" by cheap, quick-fix respray contractor at winscreen subcontacor's expense.
4. Re-sprayed paintwork has been agreed by dealer to be below acceptable standard.
5. Paintwork contractor will have to foot the bill for a re-spray in approved bodyshop which they have chosen in Birmingham 26 miles away. They will apparently also have to pay the dealership the fee for them to supply me with a hire car.

Why the paintwork subcontactor have to pay for a higher standard of re-spray than they themselves can achieve and for the hire car, I do not know.

I have decided to stand my ground and insist that the car is re-sprayed at my chosen highly recommended bodyshop less than a mile from where I live.
 
I have decided to stand my ground and insist that the car is re-sprayed at my chosen highly recommended bodyshop less than a mile from where I live.

Good luck. Perhaps if you stamp your feet hard enough they will tell you that you are being unreasonable rather than just smiling politely

But I suppose it's not you that's being asked to pay for a repair twice, because a customer is being awkard. ;)
 
In fairness, if the repair is substandard I'd be pissy too.

Nobody is arquing the repair wasn't upto scratch though. The problem seems to be the dealer offered a quick easy solution. That would have caused the minimum amount of disruption to the customer. But the customer seems to have his knickers ina twist so is being extra difficult for no good reason.


Oh no wait I forgot there is a good reason. It's got to be driven there, although not by the op. The bodyshop are going to send someone to do it for them.

Infact maybe you should sue for mental pain cause. If only they would comply with your demands! :ROFLMAO:
 
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