John R Smith
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Does anyone have any information on the speeds in the gears at 6000 rpm for the 1.4 engine and the six-speed box? Or table of gear ratios and final-drive ratio would be OK.
Many thanks
John
Many thanks
John
Panda 100HP (got details from a mix of sites)
1st 3.545
2nd 2.158
3rd 1.480
4th 1.210
5th 0.921
6th 0.766
FD 4.07
Gearbox
500 1.4 16V
1st 3.54 / 4.7
2nd 2.15 / 7.8
3rd 1.48 / 11.3
4th 1.12 / 14.9
5th 0.92 / 18.2
6th 0.77 / 21.9
Final drive 4.07
Panda 100HP
1st 3.545
2nd 2.158
3rd 1.480
4th 1.210
5th 0.921
6th 0.766
FD 4.07
Very similar. I wonder if my 100hp ratios are correct now
Krisitan
Here's the BIG question.....if the Panda 100HP has the same power and ratios as the 500 1.4 100HP, but with a bigger frontal area and more weight, why is the Panda's 0-60 figure a full second quicker than the 500?
I have a suspicion that the settings on the fly-by-wire throttle linkage have been set with a view to preserving the drivetrain of the 500. Less aggressive standing starts means fewer warranty claims.
Or is it perhaps a marketing thing? The 500 needs to look slower than the Abarth, so nobbling the 500 sure helps the 0-60 time of the Abarth variants
look good.
Any ideas?
What makes the 1.4 Fiat 500 'slow' for me under acceleration is the fact that the 1st and 2nd gears are very very far from each other ratio wise. (i have the duallogic mind you). Since the 1.4 100 hp is a real NA type engine with a small capacity, it has no torque at all low down and you really have to be above 4,000 rpm at all times if you are in a 'fast' mood! And in 1st gear even if you take it up to 6,500 rpm +, when you hit 2nd you are not near enough to the sweet spot meaning that acceleration is ruined!
I've taken both on a test drive and the Panda felt far more quicker. Part of it will be down to the car being lighter, but I suspect the Panda is just mapped differently. Perhaps to make the separaton between the Abarth a bit more distinct like you say
But the Panda is heavier.....that's what has me mystified. Same gear ratios, same final drive, but more weight and bigger frontal area, but the Panda is a second quicker 0-60. WTF?
in the video, 500 has extra weight due to the guy with the camera on the passenger seat and panda seems to have only the driver but.. still so close. I'd say 500 could have won in equal conditions.
Like I said, the 500 1.4 and Panda 100hp felt like different cars to me. The 100hp handled like a go kart and felt very keen and the 500 just wasn't as good in either way.nope.. someone also sitting on the passenger seat of panda