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ok looking at it quickly; the water absorbs 50% of the output power, the output power was 20kw @ 300l/h, water goes in at 15C, what does it come out at?

this needs the Q = MC (t2-t1) formula (i guess)

we dont know t1 (final temp), but we know
t2 is 15
C is 4.18 (spec heat of water)
Q is 10kw.
M is the mass , so a flow of 300l/h = 300kgs

so; 10 = 300*4.18 (15-t1)

10 = 1254 (15-t1)

10/1254 = 15-t1

10/1254 + t1 = 15

t1 = 15 -10/1254

t1 = 15 - 0.008 = 14.992

hang on that cant be right, i made a mistake when calculating M, maybe it should be kg/s per second not hour, i cant remember.

i'm going toilet, give me 2 mins.
 
DUH i just realised i had C in the wrong units (been a very long time since i did this so bear wiith me)

we dont know t1 (final temp), but we know
t2 is 15
C is 4186 J (spec heat of water)
Q is 10kw.
M is the mass , a flow of 300l/h = 300kgs/hour = 0.083kg/sec

so, 10 = 0.083*4186 (15-t1)

10 = 348.83 (15-t1)

10 = 5232.45 - 348.83t1

10 - 5232.45 = -348.83t1

-5222.45/-348.83 = -t1

t1 = 14.97C


hang on that cant be right, it cant lose heat.

oh WTF :bang:
 
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wait i used a 1 hour Q and a 1 sec M, lets try it again using both at 1 hour;

we dont know t1 (final temp), but we know
t2 is 15
C is 4186 J (spec heat of water)
Q is 10kw.
M is the mass , a flow of 300l/h = 300kgs/hour

so, 10 = 300*4186 (15-t1)

10 = 1255800 (15-t1)

10 = 1883700 - 1255800t1

10 - 1883700 = -1255800t1

-1883690 / -11255800 = -t1

t1 = 0.16C


no that cant be right either. oh bollix to it i give up, i know its my C or M that is wrong, i suspect M, but i dont know, let me know when you find the answer otherwise it will bug me.
 
you know i think i did mix up t1 and t2, and i'm going to trust my gut instinct about C and M, so lets try again.

we dont know t2 (final temp), but we know
t1 is 15
C is 4.18
Q is 10.
M is 300

so; 10 = 300*4.18 (t2-15)

10 = 1254 (t2-15)

10/1254 = t2-15

10/1254 +15 = t2

t2 = 15.00797C

that cant be right, its possible, but i get the feeling i have done something wrong with M or C so the units are not correct, which is why the temp change is so small. sorry i really am giving up now. :bang:
 
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WAIT!!! 1lite of water doesnt weight 1kg, thats a rooky error, 1litre is 0.96kgs.

we dont know t2 (final temp), but we know
t1 is 15
C is 4.186
Q is 10.
M is 300*.96= 288

so; 10 = 288*4.186 (t2-15)

10 = 1205.568 (t2-15)

10/1205.568 = t2-15

10/1205.568 +15 = t2

t2 = 15.0083C

i'm gonna say thats my final answer (but still think i got M or C wrong)
 
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