allan jenkins
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Good luck. There should be no problem taking it back.
But I have a funny feeling it is the alternator
Technical Help, new to site, egr issue
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Technical Help, new to site, egr issue
But I have a funny feeling it is the alternator
Mushsgirl
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Okay thanks, will keep in touch ?
allan jenkins
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Yes please do.
It will be good to find out what was actually wrong with it.
But I think we will never find out as you will just give it back and say "up yours ".. lol
Mushsgirl
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What gave it away?! ?
Hi,
if you can - take somebody else with you on the next visit,
they will take in a few more things..,
like who's listening in , body language..as well as the odd piece of verbal info you may not register / recall,
Charlie
if you can - take somebody else with you on the next visit,
they will take in a few more things..,
like who's listening in , body language..as well as the odd piece of verbal info you may not register / recall,
Charlie
Mushsgirl
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At the garage now, they're fitting a new battery so we'll see how that goes!
Make sure they do a FULL check on the charging system to make sure the alternator etc. is actually going to charge your battery. Also ask them to check ALL earth points too.
allan jenkins
Member
Make sure they check the alternator to make sure it's charging the battery..
Give them some **** girl and don't take any ;-)
:yeahthat:
If the car has been run with an insecure or missing connection it could have damaged the alternator &/or its charging circuitry, causing the first battery to go bad. You don't want to be back in the same place in a week or two's time.
Also be sure they fit the correct battery - the diesel cars use an uprated one, compared to the petrol cars. If you can post a picture of the top of the new battery, we can tell you if it's the correct fitment.
Just a couple more questions:
Did you buy it from a franchised dealer, or an independent garage?
About how many miles has it done?
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Mushsgirl
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Bought from an independent dealer, it's done 66k on 08 plate
If, hopefully, this all turns out okay in the end, I realise at the moment, the last thing you will want to do is spend any more money, after all, you've just forked out 4k, plus insurance, but later, I'd seriously consider taking the vehicle to a good independent Fiat specialist for a proper check over, certainly, if you can afford it on the next service. Or even, dare I say it, your local Fiat dealer....
gawd bless 'em!
There are garages that do fixed price servicing. Even some Fiat dealers around the country do fixed price servicing on cars over 3 years old. As with anything garage related though, it can show up issues you would probably rather not know about because inevitably, it will mean paying for it if parts need replacement. One such issue, will be service items such as the cambelt and waterpump which have fairly rigid service time intervals. You go over the service intervals on those, and you're hanging by the seat of your pants.
The last thing I want to do is to start worrying you or making you think it's just one thing after the other, but the fact is, you've bought an 8 year old car, an early Fiat 500 at that, and issues will start to arise. Cars sadly, are unable to care for themselves and as they become ever more complex, the faults that occur with them become ever more expensive.
Here's a link to another garage in South Wales that does fixed price servicing. I don't know them, have no affiliation to them and I've not read any reviews, but if they're nearby, there's no harm in going to look:
http://www.lcmotors.co.uk/aftersales-service/service-centre/#
gawd bless 'em!There are garages that do fixed price servicing. Even some Fiat dealers around the country do fixed price servicing on cars over 3 years old. As with anything garage related though, it can show up issues you would probably rather not know about because inevitably, it will mean paying for it if parts need replacement. One such issue, will be service items such as the cambelt and waterpump which have fairly rigid service time intervals. You go over the service intervals on those, and you're hanging by the seat of your pants.
The last thing I want to do is to start worrying you or making you think it's just one thing after the other, but the fact is, you've bought an 8 year old car, an early Fiat 500 at that, and issues will start to arise. Cars sadly, are unable to care for themselves and as they become ever more complex, the faults that occur with them become ever more expensive.
Here's a link to another garage in South Wales that does fixed price servicing. I don't know them, have no affiliation to them and I've not read any reviews, but if they're nearby, there's no harm in going to look:
http://www.lcmotors.co.uk/aftersales-service/service-centre/#
If, hopefully, this all turns out okay in the end, I realise at the moment, the last thing you will want to do is spend any more money, after all, you've just forked out 4k, plus insurance, but later, I'd seriously consider taking the vehicle to a good independent Fiat specialist for a proper check over, certainly, if you can afford it on the next service. Or even, dare I say it, your local Fiat dealer....
Sound advice frupi, but realistically only worth doing if it's done in the next few days; after that, it'd be all but impossible to use the findings to get any kind of restitution from the supplying dealer in respect of any major faults found.
Let's look on the bright side & hope the car comes back today in a fully working condition, and Mushsgirl gets many years trouble free motoring from it. Mushsgril - once you get it sorted, please post us a picture of it in a happy place
.But if it does give any further trouble inside the warranty period, I'd advise Mushsgirl to reject the car and demand a refund.
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I couldn't agree more and that is exactly what I'd do had I found myself in this situation. I'd rather fork out £150 on an independent inspection, be presented with a list of faults, give the garage the option of fixing those faults, or walking away with a refund plus the inspection charge, than keep a motor which gives nothing but trouble.
As a matter of interest Mushsgirl, would you mind just revealing the first two letters of the car registration, I'd like to determine what part of the country your car has come from. I'm only asking, because independent garages normally get their vehicle stock one of two ways, either as a direct trade in from an owner with a part exchange, or, more commonly, from an auction house. Car dealers will often travel miles to an auction house, buy several vehicles and have them transported back to their premises.
It would just be interesting to see where this car possibly started it's life.
It might also be worth you doing your own HPI check. The RAC do it for £14.99. It can reveal a lot about the vehicle you may not have been informed of......
https://www.rac.co.uk/buying-a-car/..._Check-exact&gclid=CO2znbuXo9ACFUITGwodhe0P2g
Mushsgirl
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Thanks for all your advice, the first two are CY
As I've got 3 months warranty I'm gonna suck it and see, new battery seems to be doing the job, been to Halfords who checked the alternator and battery again for me and all seems well, fingers crossed that's it and I won't need to go back!
Ok, so the car was registered in Bangor, North Wales, so it seems it's been a Welsh car since registered.
As for sticking it out, seems like a good plan at this stage, but if you get any more issues, don't hesitate to get it back to the garage asap.
Hope Halfords didn't charge you too much
Keep an eye on the cambelt/waterpump/tensioner situation, if they haven't been changed yet, you really need to think about getting it done because if it does snap, you'll lose your engine. You need to see solid evidence/paperwork/receipts to see if it has been changed.
Fill the tank with Shell Nitro diesel, take it onto your nearest motorway and go for a half hour run at 70mph. You need to do this at least once a month if you are just using the car around town otherwise you'll end up with more DPF/EGR problems.
As for sticking it out, seems like a good plan at this stage, but if you get any more issues, don't hesitate to get it back to the garage asap.
Hope Halfords didn't charge you too much
Keep an eye on the cambelt/waterpump/tensioner situation, if they haven't been changed yet, you really need to think about getting it done because if it does snap, you'll lose your engine. You need to see solid evidence/paperwork/receipts to see if it has been changed.
Fill the tank with Shell Nitro diesel, take it onto your nearest motorway and go for a half hour run at 70mph. You need to do this at least once a month if you are just using the car around town otherwise you'll end up with more DPF/EGR problems.
Mushsgirl
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Ok, so the car was registered in Bangor, North Wales, so it seems it's been a Welsh car since registered.
As for sticking it out, seems like a good plan at this stage, but if you get any more issues, don't hesitate to get it back to the garage asap.
Hope Halfords didn't charge you too much
Keep an eye on the cambelt/waterpump/tensioner situation, if they haven't been changed yet, you really need to think about getting it done because if it does snap, you'll lose your engine. You need to see solid evidence/paperwork/receipts to see if it has been changed.
Fill the tank with Shell Nitro diesel, take it onto your nearest motorway and go for a half hour run at 70mph. You need to do this at least once a month if you are just using the car around town otherwise you'll end up with more DPF/EGR problems.
Awesome, thanks very much for all your advice, I'll have a read through the receipts I have and see what's been done. Now to fall back in love with her ?
Good good.
Just one last thing, if your car hasn't seen the arse end of a Fiat dealership for years, there could be outstanding software updates for the multijet engine. I came across the following thread that might indicate a software update regarding the alternator and glow plugs was issued some time ago. The only way you will get these updates done, is obviously, by going to a Fiat dealership. They will charge you, but for the cost, it might help stave off problems.
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/432700-fiat-500-1-3-multijet-recall.html
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/rec...asp?uniqueID=EDBF679773039B28802577E500414131
Just one last thing, if your car hasn't seen the arse end of a Fiat dealership for years, there could be outstanding software updates for the multijet engine. I came across the following thread that might indicate a software update regarding the alternator and glow plugs was issued some time ago. The only way you will get these updates done, is obviously, by going to a Fiat dealership. They will charge you, but for the cost, it might help stave off problems.
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/432700-fiat-500-1-3-multijet-recall.html
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/rec...asp?uniqueID=EDBF679773039B28802577E500414131
Mushsgirl
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allan jenkins
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Looking good ;-)
Hope everything will be ok
allan jenkins
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And your a Welsh girl.. so it will be fine mush.. lol
