General bolt hole thread

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General bolt hole thread

kev uno

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right i seem to have a small problem one of the holes in the engine block where the thermostat bolts in the thread has gone and i cannot tighten the thermostat housing and i have i water leak.

so does anyone have any ideas on how i can get a bolt to tighten up enuf to get a good seal and stop the leak.

many thanks
kev
 
Best solution is to drive it (with the leak) to a workshop that has a Helicoil kit. This is a box of various specially-sized drill bits, taps (for cutting special threads) and items that look like coil-bound springs. The 'springs' are actually hardened thread inserts that a special tool winds in to the specially-cut larger thread in the alloy. Then the operator snaps the tang off the end of the thread insert and the area is dressed with a die grinder to leave a perfect, repaired thread (potentially stronger than the original).

The last time I watched this done was for a tensioner bolt in an alloy engine block.

It wouldn't be worth purchasing the kit for a one-off operation, but it is probably worth paying the modest cost for someone to sort it out properly for you.

There are three other DIY options.

Option 1 (Good, if it works out) - obtain an M7 tap (for cutting a 7mm thread). I assume we're talking about a FIRE engine, in which case I think it was originally an M6 thread (10mm-across-flats bolt head). From where you buy the tap from, find out the drill size (probably an odd size such as 6.5mm) and get this drill. Then, drill the hole out and use the tap to cut a thread. Only do this once you've got hold of a suitable M7 bolt - 11mm head - (perhaps two!) - a hard size to find here in NZ, potentially easier in Europe-friendly England. Be aware that if the drill wobbles, the thread may end up a bit loose and therefore weaker than the original.

Option 2 (just OK) - use slightly longer bolts to reach some of the undamaged thread further into the cylinder head. It can be difficult to find bolts exactly the right length. Be careful not to crack the cylinder head after the bolt bottoms-out (use washers).

Option 3 (not good but might get you out of a pinch) - use Loctite Master Gasket 518 - a red translucent goo that sets very hard when there is no air present between materials (NOT silicone sealant). Ditch the gasket and literally 'glue' the housing onto the cylinder head. Coat the bolt with epoxy resin (e.g. Araldite) and put in as far as you can. Leave 24 hours to set.

-Alex
 
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wow thank you for all the info there.
right i have managed to get hold of a tap and die set.

but the prob is i cant get hold of a m7 bolt.

so do u think i would be able to use a m8 tap and use an m8 bolt.

or would i need to use a 7mm drill bit to drill it out to a 7mm hole then use a m8 tap.

thanks
kev
 
I don't think the hole in the cylinder head can be made big enough to accomodate an M8 bolt. I could be wrong...

Maybe keep trying for the M7 bolt. Give up on general shops and go for the specialist bolt suppliers (Yellow Pages?)

Strangely, the M7 tap was part of a small set I purchased cheaply.

I know for example that my Alfa's V6 has M7 bolts holding the thermostat together. So they do exist. But I had difficulty getting one as well... had to get an Alfa dealer to supply a second-hand bolt... ridiculous :)

-Alex
 
i have had big probs with this one.

i had to put the bolt back in so i could stop the leak as much as i could but when i went to take the bolt out it snapped in the hole now how this happened i have no idea as the thread had gone in the hole:bang::cry::bang::cry:
and couldent get any thing on the end of the snapped bolt to try and bring it out that way.

cant get a drill in as there isnt enuf room.
so i was tell a m8 about it and he said he had a thing u put in a drill and u can drill around bends i have no idea wot this is never seen them b4 but other then droping the engine to drill the hole this is the only way i can think of to drill it out.

or can any one tell me another way????

so wish me luck (i think i am going to need it)

many thanks
kev
 
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