Styling Xenon hid conversion??

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Styling Xenon hid conversion??

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Guys, i want to order a HID conversion kit xenon bulbs for my fiat stilo 3dr. atm i just have the standard halogen bulbs. any1 know of any cheap deals for my car? im going to get a garage to fit them for me. links will be appreciated!!! :)(y)
 
can get them on ebay under 40 delivered.

fit them your self, i doubt many garages will fit illegal bulbs for you, also doubt they will be careful and not touch the bulbs, and i think on the stilo isnt it a case of removing the bumper or something? they will deffinalty **** it up lol :p
 
The standard ones look cool as they are, in my opinion!
 
standard headlight bulbs look cool? :confused: just look the same as nearly every other car surely? lol a horriable yellowy tingy colour light

I meant the whole cluster. They look cool as they are and the bulbs are not that yellow. :rolleyes:
 
Standard are just fine.

I'm sorry for not linkin to my photos - not enough posts.

I'll get back to this thread though.

I think you will enjoy HID as much as I do :slayer:
 
I meant the whole cluster. They look cool as they are and the bulbs are not that yellow. :rolleyes:
Quite so - and they don't dazzle oncoming drivers whilst dipped either (y)

Anyone driving around with yellowish lights need to get their electrics or defective bulbs sorted (unlikely to be driving a Stilo anyway :))
 
all normal halogen bulbs will give off a yellow light.
You driving a lot in France are you :rolleyes:

The wavelength if different - this is true of all light sources - and there are even specified standards for 'white' light used for scientific/photographic purposes.

If you really think all halogen headlights look yellow then you might want to visit an optician :cool:
 
all normal halogen bulbs will give off a colour like this-

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(yellow) quite clearly you can see they are yellow tinge to them.

and this is hids-
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(white)


now surely you can see why he would want hids?
 
all normal halogen bulbs will give off a colour like this-

Image474.jpg

(yellow) quite clearly you can see they are yellow tinge to them.



now surely you can see why he would want hids?

lol, I can see why you would want HIDs on the above but Stilos are no way near as bad as that! The above is just a blurred mess. :p

On a Stilo, they're a lot whiter (they'll obviously still have a yellow tinge) and you can make out all the detail in the cluster whilst the headlights are on.
 
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@beau

Please don't spam the Forum with posts like this which provides no useful information - most people aren't already fully aware of.

Illegal HID conversions of car headlamp systems present a possible danger to other road users and this has been commented on many times on this Forum. I don't encourage promotion of such systems. (n) (discussion is OK)

For your information, I'd agree your image does show an excessively yellowish light but this could easily be due to colour temperature correction of the camera you used or defects within the car's electrics (was the engine running for example)

If you wish to research the output of different light sources scientifically then use Google and you'll find plenty of facts.
 
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Illegal HID conversions.

has anyone even got to the bottom of this?

i have never been stopped by the police or flashed at by oncoming drivers.

i also do not see anything wrong with Beau's post. it clearly describes the situation, and YES, normal halogens ARE yellow.

now merry chrimbo :)
 
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has anyone even got to the bottom of this?

i have never been stopped by the police or flashed at by oncoming drivers.
There have been many posts on this subject - with plenty of links provided to the legal situation.

Some kits may well be better than others - that I accept - but unless they comply with the letter of the law then they are illegal.

You may well not have been stopped by the Police (I'm sure they've got better things to do :)) but that doesn't change the fact that if you were to be involved in a serious accident, say at night, then your car would be examined very closely for lighting defects.

I SHALL MAKE FEW MORE WARNINGS IF I FIND ANYONE PROMOTING NON-LEGAL CONVERSIONS - END OF DISCUSSION!
 
has anyone even got to the bottom of this?

the department of transports view is this as quoted from jug

aftermarket HID kits are illegal. i dont have a problem with smashing someone's lights if they fit them illegally.


from the department of transport.


Aftermarket HID headlamps



In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

The following is the legal rationale:

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.

However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).

For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.

Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:

1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.

2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).

3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
In practice this means:

1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.

2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.


If you require any further information regarding the regulations covered by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below:

Transport Technology and Standards 6
Department for Transport
Zone 2/04
Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street Telephone: 020 7944 2078
London Fax: 020 7944 2196
SW1P 4DR Email: [email protected]

do the departent of transport have the power to over rule the EU ruling that they are ok or not i dont know.
even if they do it can only apply to he UK

every other country that can log on to ff will have its own laws i reckon
 
I've seen a few HID conversions fitted to aftermarket cars and the majority of them don't affect me, oncoming or behind me. Its the poorly aligned headlights that really bother me. Thats when they get a taste of my +90 Osram Nightbreakers. See how they like it.

The red heavily modified stilo thats been discussed before, he has very poorly aligned HID headlights. Blinds everyone. :mad:
 
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