Re: Wheels & Tyres
But its so much easier now with Astra H hubs.
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But its so much easier now with Astra H hubs.
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PD
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Back down oh yellow one.
At least he used the search function.
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Back down oh yellow one.
At least he used the search function.
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It's funny, most people who seem to get annoyed at people using the search function also seem to berate people using it too.
It's funny, most people who seem to get annoyed at people using the search function also seem to berate people using it too.
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That's moderators for you.
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It's funny, most people who seem to get annoyed at people using the search function also seem to berate people using it too.
That's moderators for you.
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PD
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i wasnt berating just saying as its unlikely they will be looking for the answer
It's funny, most people who seem to get annoyed at people using the search function also seem to berate people using it too.
i wasnt berating
just saying as its unlikely they will be looking for the answersteve handley
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to be fer ive just joint and dont no the ins and outs
to be fer ive just joint and dont no the ins and outs
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There are guys on here who have been users for years and the search function is as much a mystery to them as a clitoris.
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There are guys on here who have been users for years and the search function is as much a mystery to them as a clitoris.
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gp3000000
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Re: Wheels & Tyres
I know it's been a long time since this thread was started
I have a Seicento SX with steel wheels and have my eye on a set of standard Seicento Sporting alloys (Non-Abarth type)
I understand that both the steels and alloys are 4x98 PCD, however just a little worried about the offsets. My steel wheels are ET33, and from reading I gather the Sporting alloys are ET35. So this means they'll be closer to the inside of the car, but as there aren't any differences in the arches of the Sporting and SX they won't rub anywhere. (Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this). Can anyone confirm I won't need spacers?
My steel wheels are 5" wide, but I've read the alloys are 5.5", can anyone confirm this? I'm running 165/55 R 13 tyres on my steels currently, and these are also the tyres fitted to the alloys. Does the width difference matter at all?
However the thing I'm most worried about is the bolts. Is it necessary to have different bolts for alloys than the ones I have on my steels? My dad had an incident MANY years ago with using steel wheel bolts on alloys and all but 1 sheared off within a mile! He also said he remembers fords used to have silver bolts and black bolts and you had to use them for the wheels they were made for? If I do need bolts is it best to go to Fiat?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Thanks
I know it's been a long time since this thread was started
I have a Seicento SX with steel wheels and have my eye on a set of standard Seicento Sporting alloys (Non-Abarth type)
I understand that both the steels and alloys are 4x98 PCD, however just a little worried about the offsets. My steel wheels are ET33, and from reading I gather the Sporting alloys are ET35. So this means they'll be closer to the inside of the car, but as there aren't any differences in the arches of the Sporting and SX they won't rub anywhere. (Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this). Can anyone confirm I won't need spacers?
My steel wheels are 5" wide, but I've read the alloys are 5.5", can anyone confirm this? I'm running 165/55 R 13 tyres on my steels currently, and these are also the tyres fitted to the alloys. Does the width difference matter at all?
However the thing I'm most worried about is the bolts. Is it necessary to have different bolts for alloys than the ones I have on my steels? My dad had an incident MANY years ago with using steel wheel bolts on alloys and all but 1 sheared off within a mile! He also said he remembers fords used to have silver bolts and black bolts and you had to use them for the wheels they were made for? If I do need bolts is it best to go to Fiat?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Thanks
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The normal, non Abarth, 13" Sporting wheels go straight on. Don't worry about clearance - they're an OEM piece and Fiat wouldn't make smth that doesn't fit, would they? Tyres are fine, that's the standard Fiat size for that wheel - if anything, I wouldn't use 165/55 on 5" wheels. And yes, you will need different bolts for the alloys (should be longer - enough to catch 8 full turns of the bolt).
PS The Sporting wheels are 5,5x13 and have an offset of 27,5.
The normal, non Abarth, 13" Sporting wheels go straight on. Don't worry about clearance - they're an OEM piece and Fiat wouldn't make smth that doesn't fit, would they?
Tyres are fine, that's the standard Fiat size for that wheel - if anything, I wouldn't use 165/55 on 5" wheels. And yes, you will need different bolts for the alloys (should be longer - enough to catch 8 full turns of the bolt).PS The Sporting wheels are 5,5x13 and have an offset of 27,5.
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gp3000000
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Thanks, can anyone help me with what bolts I'd need?
MRodz - As far as I'm aware the 165/55s are what the car came with? Read on a website somewhere that it's OK to have tyres slightly wider than the wheels because it pulls them in - just not the other way around. Don't know how true this is but at one point I had a 165/55 on a 4.5" Cinquecento rim (only for a few days though after I knackered one of my rims). Didn't really look right though.
Thanks, can anyone help me with what bolts I'd need?
MRodz - As far as I'm aware the 165/55s are what the car came with? Read on a website somewhere that it's OK to have tyres slightly wider than the wheels because it pulls them in - just not the other way around. Don't know how true this is but at one point I had a 165/55 on a 4.5" Cinquecento rim (only for a few days though after I knackered one of my rims). Didn't really look right though.
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AFAIK 165/55 are what the car came with, but when equipped with 5,5x13 Sporting alloys. The normal tyre fitted to 5x13 steelies was 155/65 or, at the beginning of the Sei production cycle and IIRC on Cinqs, even 145/70.
Although it probably is OK to have a slighlty wider tyre, the lower the profile the lower this extra width should be. To give an example; 165/65 on a 5" should be less of a problem than 165/55
Unless someone wants to correct me
AFAIK 165/55 are what the car came with, but when equipped with 5,5x13 Sporting alloys. The normal tyre fitted to 5x13 steelies was 155/65 or, at the beginning of the Sei production cycle and IIRC on Cinqs, even 145/70.
Although it probably is OK to have a slighlty wider tyre, the lower the profile the lower this extra width should be. To give an example; 165/65 on a 5" should be less of a problem than 165/55
Unless someone wants to correct me
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gp3000000
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Well I must admit that the tyres I've seen fitted to every other Seicento I've seen have been 155/65 with the exception of one, same model, year & colour as mine that I saw for sale, which had 165/55 like mine.
Just seen this on Eper after putting in my chassis number, it seems to suggest the same bolts on steels & alloys? I don't really want to try it though, are the steel bolts definitely too short?
As a side note, it lists a different set of bolts for the Abarth alloys as opposed to the sporting alloys but it lists no bolts for the steel wheels - does this mean you're supposed to use the same ones?
Well I must admit that the tyres I've seen fitted to every other Seicento I've seen have been 155/65 with the exception of one, same model, year & colour as mine that I saw for sale, which had 165/55 like mine.
Just seen this on Eper after putting in my chassis number, it seems to suggest the same bolts on steels & alloys? I don't really want to try it though, are the steel bolts definitely too short?
As a side note, it lists a different set of bolts for the Abarth alloys as opposed to the sporting alloys but it lists no bolts for the steel wheels - does this mean you're supposed to use the same ones?
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It is only difference in the cinquecento, because the cinq sporting wheels have 3mm spacers, and the cinq s doesn't
But in the sei case, neither the sei or the sei sporting came with spacers.
Ming
It is only difference in the cinquecento, because the cinq sporting wheels have 3mm spacers, and the cinq s doesn't
But in the sei case, neither the sei or the sei sporting came with spacers.
Ming
gp3000000
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So no spacers means longer bolts not needed? Is that what you're saying?
If so then great!
So no spacers means longer bolts not needed? Is that what you're saying?
If so then great!
gp3000000
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Thanks for the advice just wanted to be sure!
Didn't wanna go round ignorant shearing bolts off
Thanks for the advice just wanted to be sure!
Didn't wanna go round ignorant shearing bolts off
gp3000000
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Have now bought the alloys (Original Seicento sporting) and am just about to get them refurbed!
I've tried one of my original bolts from the steel wheels to check if they'll work but they don't catch 8 full turns - only 7/7.5.
Is this OK? Why do they need 8 turns? Have tried googling and searching but turned up nothing. If I do need bolts is it likely to be 24 or 28mm or something longer? Don't want to get ones too long otherwise I've read it will damage things as they go too far into the hub?
Have now bought the alloys (Original Seicento sporting) and am just about to get them refurbed!
I've tried one of my original bolts from the steel wheels to check if they'll work but they don't catch 8 full turns - only 7/7.5.
Is this OK? Why do they need 8 turns? Have tried googling and searching but turned up nothing. If I do need bolts is it likely to be 24 or 28mm or something longer? Don't want to get ones too long otherwise I've read it will damage things as they go too far into the hub?
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The answer is you don't, basically you need enough thread to have clear thread exposure behind the hub flange. I can't remember how many turns that is through the hubs off the top of my head but it's around about 5 or 6 revolutions. So yeah 7 to 7.5 is about right.
All this stuff is easy to work out if you take a disc/drum off
The answer is you don't, basically you need enough thread to have clear thread exposure behind the hub flange. I can't remember how many turns that is through the hubs off the top of my head but it's around about 5 or 6 revolutions. So yeah 7 to 7.5 is about right.
All this stuff is easy to work out if you take a disc/drum off
gp3000000
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Ah OK great. Will have a go at fitting once they get back from being refurbed
Ah OK great. Will have a go at fitting once they get back from being refurbed
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poweder coated? spray ? what colour ?
ming
poweder coated
? spray ? what colour ?ming
