General Wheel spin

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General Wheel spin

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Now, I'm no girl racer, but a few times I've pulled hard out of a junction or onto a roundabout and spun my wheels. Its a bit alarming. I've got a 1.2 pop dualogic. I'm just accelerating hard. Is this bad?! Is it a 500 thing? The dualogic manual says accelerate hard to the floor (in badly translated Italian..) for a "responsive" takeoff. If I want to pull away fast it seems I risk doing this. Any thoughts??!!
 
Are the roads wet?... Experiment with less pedal pressure until you get to the level you think is quick enough without wheel spin. Its just a case of getting used to the correct pedal pressure for your car.

It maybe your playing the drum and bass too loud you can't hear the engine girly racer....:D
 
I've found that compared to my old Metro the 500 barely spins the wheels at all. The Metro was a maniac of a car for wheelspin, even in a 1.1. It was stupidly dangerous in the wet!

I've barely had any wheelspin in my 500 (1.2) but it is possible if you rev the hell out of it and then dump the clutch in the full manual versions. Not sure about the dualogic though.
 
i had a bit of wheelspin out of a junction yesterday- was as the roads were wet and greasy after no rain for weeks....suprised me, but to be expected....i have the 1.2 too.

if you rev too hard and drop the clutch too quick you will get this more often, so i would say moderate both a bit....:)
 
Now, I'm no girl racer, but a few times I've pulled hard out of a junction or onto a roundabout and spun my wheels. Its a bit alarming. I've got a 1.2 pop dualogic. I'm just accelerating hard. Is this bad?! Is it a 500 thing? The dualogic manual says accelerate hard to the floor (in badly translated Italian..) for a "responsive" takeoff. If I want to pull away fast it seems I risk doing this. Any thoughts??!!

Don't be concerned :) Front Wheel Drive cars will always spin their wheels because of the fact that when you accelerate the weight transfer to the rear of the car means your front wheels get less grip. I've had wheelspin a few times in my car especially now that it's got a little colder because your tyres start get harder as the weather gets colder and offer slightly less grip.

The fastest way to accelerate is actually with a teensy bit of wheelspin so that's probably what the dualogic system is setup to do. Spinning your wheels all the time will result in your tyres wearing out a bit sooner so don't do it unless you really need to.
 
I've barely had any wheelspin in my 500 (1.2) but it is possible if you rev the hell out of it and then dump the clutch in the full manual versions. Not sure about the dualogic though.

I should also say that you don't necessarily need to rev the crap out of it to get wheelspin. When the roads are damp or wet you can spin the inside wheel really easily. There's one junction I pull out of where the road surface is particularly poor and my car will also get wheelspin there if you're trying to make a swift getaway.
 
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I've found that compared to my old Metro the 500 barely spins the wheels at all. The Metro was a maniac of a car for wheelspin, even in a 1.1. It was stupidly dangerous in the wet!

Agree with Lloyd, mine is good for both pulling away and braking (16" wheels fitted might help that). I had a Metro GTi, wheel spin in 2nd (on tarmac) just by flooring it :eek:(y)
 
Agree with Lloyd, mine is good for both pulling away and braking (16" wheels fitted might help that). I had a Metro GTi, wheel spin in 2nd (on tarmac) just by flooring it :eek:(y)
Yeah the VXR with Quaiffe LSD front wheel drive, 305 BHP and nearly 400 Lb/ft torque can be a 'bit lively' at times when the sports button is engaged :D :eek:

Down boy.... :yum: :devil:
 
Agree with Lloyd, mine is good for both pulling away and braking (16" wheels fitted might help that). I had a Metro GTi, wheel spin in 2nd (on tarmac) just by flooring it :eek:(y)
The thing with turbo diesels is that because you've got turbo lag, by the time it's in its torque band the wheels have already hooked themselves up. I used to find that my 406 got more wheelspin when it was already rolling compared to standing starts.
 
The thing with turbo diesels is that because you've got turbo lag, by the time it's in its torque band the wheels have already hooked themselves up. I used to find that my 406 got more wheelspin when it was already rolling compared to standing starts.
Correct...

One way of reducing turbo lag on Turbo Diesels is fitting a tuning box, or getting them remapped.

Did this on my old 1.9 CDTi and got just under 200 BHP from it in the end. Didnt get hardly any lag on that. Blisteringly quick with loads of torque, just a pity the rev range was short.

Took my 1.9 CDTi around the Nurburgring in 9 minutes 50 seconds back in 2007. Also did Santa Pod 1/4 mile in 15.52 seconds
 
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Don't be concerned :) Front Wheel Drive cars will always spin their wheels because of the fact that when you accelerate the weight transfer to the rear of the car means your front wheels get less grip. I've had wheelspin a few times in my car especially now that it's got a little colder because your tyres start get harder as the weather gets colder and offer slightly less grip.

The fastest way to accelerate is actually with a teensy bit of wheelspin so that's probably what the dualogic system is setup to do. Spinning your wheels all the time will result in your tyres wearing out a bit sooner so don't do it unless you really need to.

Thanks, at least I know its not my bad driving! It was the tyres I was thinking about too. I havent done it so much now I know it happens!
 
I'm guessing the 1.2 will be fitted with Eco tyres.. Getting softer rubber will reduce your wheelspin and make it stick to the road better, but you'll get less life out of a set of tyres. Bit of a balance between life and performance, but given the tyres are the only thing that is in contact with the road, I always go for more grip over tyre life.
 
I'm guessing the 1.2 will be fitted with Eco tyres..

No, well at least not on the standard 15" ers on the Sport. Perhaps the 14 inch wheels on the Pop do have though? We were only just saying how un-wheelspinny the 500 is. I've not had any form mine (although I do not try to create it). Front end grip in all areas seems tremendous in fact.
 
No, well at least not on the standard 15" ers on the Sport. Perhaps the 14 inch wheels on the Pop do have though? We were only just saying how un-wheelspinny the 500 is. I've not had any form mine (although I do not try to create it). Front end grip in all areas seems tremendous in fact.
What tyres do you have on your car? Most of the tyres I've seen on 15" wheels on 500's are eco tyres.
 
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