Technical Wheel Size For Turbo Cinq

[SlinkyCinqi]

What size wheels would people recommend for me to put on my turbo cinq when its done?

Was gonna go 14s purely for the GT brakes to fit under, but what about 15s? with 195/45/15s? car is lowered though, 40 or 60mm don't know, was lowered when i got it, and i haven't even looked at it since!

15s seem a lot more common and easier to get hold of, but might be a bit big, but then again, i might be fitting the 6 speed box, so this would make for a better ratio for the box...

HELP!! lol opinions on the wheel sizes and the 5 or 6 speed box welcomed and appreciated, it's only gonna be a weekend car, and maybe the odd day for work in summer etc. remember that when considering the box ratios!

Thanks in advance... again!

Lenny

 

[Whiley]

15's will slow acceleration down ghey! get some 14 deep dish alloys oh and drove a cinq with a 5 and a six, gears feel allot smoother with a 6 speed but it affects top end again and 15's will catch gearbox, stick with 5 and a paddle clutch

 

[Gi-Gi]

from what I read lenny on the 6 speed box it rubs even on 14s so needs some sort of sterring stop put in before it hits the box?

alloys pass I think it boils down to if you want to put the work in to mod the arches etc

 

[SlinkyCinqi]

Yea i know about the wheels catching the box, but 15s would be almost right with the box, and might not affect accelleration too much, in another post somewhere it was worked out that the 6 speed box in a cento would be the same accelleration and top end as std if 16s were fitted, but no chance am i doing that! Arches dont need modding for 15s i dont think. But I'd still prefer to fit 14s TBH.

Even if i fitted a 5 speed box i'd still fit the stilo 1.4 16v clutch and flywheel, 200mm friction surface compared tot he cinqs 180, but same size flywheel, just bigger friction area (info stolen from aaron lol)

Lenny

 

[serin]

Hvaing had a Cinq with both 15's and 6 speed gear box, id say do neither

The gearbox doesnt effect top end at all, as the box is off the Punto EL, which was never sporty. AFAIK the end ratio is exactly the same!

And dont get me started on the wheels! the rubbed on ****ing everything, and that was with the arches rolled! then you had the rubbing on the gearbox itself, which limited lock just a tad

RIP!

 

[J333EVO]

TBH with the amount of torque created with the turbo 6 speed box is really not needed. The 6 speed boxes are for cars that are not as flexible with there power outputs.

Don't get me wrong the 6 speed box we have in the Sei is brilliant at keeping the 1.4 16V on the boil, but that is because its a rev happy 16V unit, the fact that a turbo 1242 8V will make its torque peak about 3200rpm means that you don't need to change cogs as much.

I would just go 14" wheels, but go 6" wide and go with 195/45 rubber, gets bigger foot print for getting power down and GT brakes will fit inside.

I would only go to a 15" wheel if you use a Alfa/Lancia OE wheel, that way you could get a wheel that is no wider than 6", maybe even 5.5" wide, because most after market wheels in 15" will be 6.5" wide which makes even more issues with rubbing etc

 

[allanhelen]

The beauty of the turbo is the acceleration, top speed is for pub talk only i have a NA and a turbo with 14's and wouldn't want to go any bigger

Also have a six speed box on the GP and get bored changing gear all the time TBO

 

[cc1]

What about these????????
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=110220781941&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001

 

[J333EVO]

6J 15" 98PCD Compomotive TH wheels only down road from you in Buckinghamshire.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Compomotive-T...ryZ28648QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[SlinkyCinqi]

6J 15" 98PCD Compomotive TH wheels only down road from you in Buckinghamshire.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Compomotive-T...ryZ28648QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Will be keeping an eye on them! they're screamers! would look great on the yellow abarth i reckon!

Lenny

 

[StoneNewt]

I'm a little late with this but back on topic, yeah 15" looks good but the hassle to get them to fit and through the MOT is quite high & potentially expensive, any lowering will exacerbate the problem.

I've spent over £1000, possibly over £1500, on getting 205/40R16 tyres to fit on a Seicento lowered by a little over 50mm. For the record the official inflated diameter of my tyres are only about 5mm larger than most 195/45R15 tyres.

Personally I'd only go for 15" wheels if you really need to for technical or styling reasons. Stick to 14" wheels and if you need to increase the ratio then I suggest you play musical diffs & final drive gears.

TBH with the amount of torque created with the turbo 6 speed box is really not needed. The 6 speed boxes are for cars that are not as flexible with there power outputs.

Don't get me wrong the 6 speed box we have in the Sei is brilliant at keeping the 1.4 16V on the boil, but that is because its a rev happy 16V unit, the fact that a turbo 1242 8V will make its torque peak about 3200rpm means that you don't need to change cogs as much.

As a driver of a close ratio 6 speed turbo diesel I have to disagree with this to some extent. When you use the 'box in a sequential manner it's way to close and just is an annoyance but if you use wide torque band and use a double gear shift pattern then the closeness of the gears lets you place the rpm right at the bottom of the powerband at almost any speed. From there you can drive the engine right through to the red line.

I think, however, that the 6 speed boxes offered from fiat aren't close enough to drive them like my 'box & would simply introduce to many gear changes to make them actually faster on the road.

 

[Alex22]

its gotta be hardcore 13s dude

 

[Brooky]

its gotta be hardcore 13s dude

:yeahthat::slayer::slayer::slayer::slayer:

 

[allanhelen]

These are some of the nicest 15's on a cinq i've seen and made to a Cento offset and pcd . http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fiat-Cinquece...oryZ9888QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
They must have been made from gold for the price he is asking though and i've told him so would look nicer in white on a yellow cinq

 

[fingers99]

14" 6J should be OK. Fit Uniroyal Rainmasters in 195/45/14.

I'll be fitting 15" 6J to Blue, but mainly to reduce torque steer and raise the gearing. I don't expect it to be easy.

6 speed diesels are one thing, Turbo Cinqs another: the power band, the torque spread is so wide that 5 is fine.

 

[J333EVO]

As a driver of a close ratio 6 speed turbo diesel I have to disagree with this to some extent. When you use the 'box in a sequential manner it's way to close and just is an annoyance but if you use wide torque band and use a double gear shift pattern then the closeness of the gears lets you place the rpm right at the bottom of the powerband at almost any speed. From there you can drive the engine right through to the red line.

I think, however, that the 6 speed boxes offered from fiat aren't close enough to drive them like my 'box & would simply introduce to many gear changes to make them actually faster on the road.

The reason just about all diesels use 6 speed boxes is because there spread of power is very poor, typically 1750-3500~4000rpm anything above that and most diesels are getting asthmatic, therefore they need 6 ratios to keep them on boil, a turbo Cinq will be on boost from 2200-7000rpm, therefore its power spread is huge in comparison, making the engine much more flexible. I would only have an extra ratio in a Cinq turbo if it was a higher ratio than the current 5th, rather than just an extra ratio in between, which is what the 6 speed Fiat boxes are like.